Paul Williams' Kryptonite

[MaFu MoFo]

good post.

Thank you, thank you. Had to do it.

[KnockoutTheFat]

Williams doesn't fight that way, as we saw in the Quintana fight, he couldn't get his feet set to throw his punches when his opponents move, he didn't cut off the ring well in that fight and kept reaching in with his punches, bending down in the process which opened himself up to punches, Verno Phillips had a little success when he was moving side to side as well but those moments came few and far between.

Just because you have size and length doesn't mean you know how to stop lateral movement, you need to know how to cut off the ring etc. Williams isn't that good at that.

Trust me, smart movement is the way to beat Williams, make him miss by ducking under his shots, step to the side, make him reset and blast him.

How much of a chance would you give Cory Spinks to beat Paul Williams. I actually give him a good chance

[Silencers]

How much of a chance would you give Cory Spinks to beat Paul Williams.

I haven't seen him fight in a while, if his legs are fresh and he's able to move around and be slick, he can win against Williams. Stylistically, it's a bad fight for Williams.

[MaFu MoFo]

also, not to take anything away from quintana, but it's clearly evident PW overlooked him for the first fight, and was surprised of quintana's skill level.

quintana's a decent fighter, but clearly not in the same class, and that lost made PW take things a lil more seriously. i'd love to see a third fight, to shut everyone up, as if the second fight wasn't enough....

True, true. Paul understimated Quintana. Quintana became like a standard the night he beated PW. Now, I like to use Quintana and compared him to others, such as Berto, Cintron, Collazo, Clottey.

For example, how will Berto do if he fights Quintana.??? That's a fight I would like to see. But I guess it will not be that different from the fight agaisnt Collazo. BTW, Collazo and Berto NEED to fight again. If Berto doesn't fight Collazo again, he will lose more respect.

[MaFu MoFo]

Williams doesn't fight that way, as we saw in the Quintana fight, he couldn't get his feet set to throw his punches when his opponents move, he didn't cut off the ring well in that fight and kept reaching in with his punches, bending down in the process which opened himself up to punches, Verno Phillips had a little success when he was moving side to side as well but those moments came few and far between.

Just because you have size and length doesn't mean you know how to stop lateral movement, you need to know how to cut off the ring etc. Williams isn't that good at that.

Trust me, smart movement is the way to beat Williams, make him miss by ducking under his shots, step to the side, make him reset and blast him.

Totally agree with you. That's why I will give PBF, Sergio Martinez and even Cotto a chance. But in Middle Weights, none of the top 10 have a significant speed and lateral movement for me to expect them to neutralize PW. Winky was the only Skilled Southpaw in the top of the division and looked awful agaisnt The Punisher. Pavlik and Abraham got power, but power is not enough to convincingly beat PW.

[TRAVI$]

Williams doesn't fight that way, as we saw in the Quintana fight, he couldn't get his feet set to throw his punches when his opponents move, he didn't cut off the ring well in that fight and kept reaching in with his punches, bending down in the process which opened himself up to punches, Verno Phillips had a little success when he was moving side to side as well but those moments came few and far between.

Just because you have size and length doesn't mean you know how to stop lateral movement, you need to know how to cut off the ring etc. Williams isn't that good at that.

Trust me, smart movement is the way to beat Williams, make him miss by ducking under his shots, step to the side, make him reset and blast him.

You feeling a win for Cotto then, Silencers?
I mean, the Cotto in the first few rounds of the Margarito fight would give Williams all sorts of problems.

[Silencers]

Totally agree with you. That's why I will give PBF, Sergio Martinez and even Cotto a chance. But in Middle Weights, none of the top 10 have a significant speed and lateral movement for me to expect them to neutralize PW. Winky was the only Skilled Southpaw in the top of the division and looked awful agaisnt The Punisher. Pavlik and Abraham got power, but power is not enough to convincingly beat PW.

It's hard to say how Williams will deal with a big, natural middleweight with power since he hasn't fought one yet, I'd still pick Abraham and Pavlik over him right now, you're right though, they're styles don't match up well against Williams' especially Abraham's because of how much he covers up and fights in spurts but Williams has to prove a little more at the weight first.

You feeling a win for Cotto then, Silencers?
I mean, the Cotto in the first few rounds of the Margarito fight would give Williams all sorts of problems.

I think Williams is just too tall and long for Cotto, I mean Williams is about 6'3, Cotto is 5'7, Williams' reach is 82", Cotto's is 67".

Cotto could have some success against Williams because of his movement but there was a lot of wasted movement against Margarito, which caused him to fade as the fight went on, which eventually led to him getting knocked out, he hasn't shown he can move smartly the way Quintana did against Williams, if Cotto fights the way he did against Margarito, I see him fading late and losing the fight, starting well and maybe leading through 6 before slowing down. But if he shows that he can move smartly and counterpunch, his chances improve big time with me. Now I'm not saying it'd be a blowout or anything but I see it as being a pretty clear win for Williams right now.

[cortdawg25]

I think Abrahma can get him eventually. But it would be a tough fight for any of them. he beats Pavlik Hopkins-esque like. And i give cotto a chance as well. he punches alot but if you maul him and rough him up, you can win. 1 of the ways to beat him is Quintana like and get off and get out the way. Or you can get off and tie him up and maul him and stop him from getting off.

pavlik doesn't have the best footwork or the ability to cut the ring off effectively to beat him. but cotto could and so could Abraham.

[MaFu MoFo]

It's hard to say how Williams will deal with a big, natural middleweight with power since he hasn't fought one yet, I'd still pick Abraham and Pavlik over him right now, you're right though, they're styles don't match up well against Williams' especially Abraham's because of how much he covers up and fights in spurts but Williams has to prove a little more at the weight first.



I think Williams is just too tall and long for Cotto, I mean Williams is about 6'3, Cotto is 5'7, Williams' reach is 82", Cotto's is 67".

Cotto could have some success against Williams because of his movement but there was a lot of wasted movement against Margarito, which caused him to fade as the fight went on, which eventually led to him getting knocked out, he hasn't shown he can move smartly the way Quintana did against Williams, if Cotto fights the way he did against Margarito, I see him fading late and losing the fight, starting well and maybe leading through 6 before slowing down. But if he shows that he can move smartly and counterpunch, his chances improve big time with me. Now I'm not saying it'd be a blowout or anything but I see it as being a pretty clear win for Williams right now.

Good post. I respect your opinion.

[MaFu MoFo]

I think Abrahma can get him eventually. But it would be a tough fight for any of them. he beats Pavlik Hopkins-esque like. And i give cotto a chance as well. he punches alot but if you maul him and rough him up, you can win. 1 of the ways to beat him is Quintana like and get off and get out the way. Or you can get off and tie him up and maul him and stop him from getting off.

pavlik doesn't have the best footwork or the ability to cut the ring off effectively to beat him. but cotto could and so could Abraham.

So you think Abraham got the ability to cut the ring agaisnt Paul Willimas. Interesting... would like to hear what others think... I really don't know if he could or not. Abraham can go straight ahead and cut the ring, but to do it agaisnt PW is not an easy task for a "tank" like him.