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  • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
    I base it on the posts you write. You make your bed, you have to lie in it.
    right. have you ever had a discussion with me about boxing or do you go by with my fans say about me on nsb?
    Last edited by Horus; 04-16-2009, 08:43 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Horus View Post
      right. have you ever had a discussion with me about boxing or do you go by with my fans say about me on nsb?
      I'm going by the posts you've written that I've read: in particular your extreme reaction to my post that you replied to in paranoid fashion, but also many other posts I've read of yours, which weren't engaging in rational discussion with the people you were replying to, but just desperately defending your hero at all costs.

      It takes an extreme Floyd worshipper to brand me as a hater - I spend quite a lot of time defending him on these forums.
      Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-16-2009, 09:08 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Horus View Post
        Oh yeah Floyd also has to figure out a way to create a time machine so he can go back in time and fight SRL,SRR, duran, and the rest of the past greats..
        to really prove he is an all time great.. Because the real fans know that they can all kick floyd ass by 6 round KO...

        COME ON FLOYD STOP BEING A ***** AND FIGURE OUT WAY TO CREATE A TIME MACHINE AND FIGHT THE FIGHTS THE REAL FANS WANT TOO SEE...
        COWARD
        People just want to see him fight the best, is that so hard? If Mosley is the #1 WW right now and is still around after December, why SHOULDN'T they fight? because Mosley said no 3-4 years ago? Who cares? This is now. In history there have been many match-ups that took years to make whether it was one guy duckin or another guy being in another division, etc. But how dumb is it to turn down a fight with someone of the likes of Mosley who's still very active and coming off one of the biggest wins of his career? I just don't see the logic on hanging a 4 year old "He ducked me then" excuse when a fight with either Mosley or even Cotto are bankable fights. We're fans 1st of the sport and this is without a doubt a fight many people want to see.

        Business is Business, but if Floyd is "trying" to make another run and not just wait for Pacquiao (assuming he beats Pacquiao), what other fights do you presume he'd take after beating Pacquiao? Edwin Valero?
        Last edited by RL_GMA; 04-16-2009, 09:41 AM.

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        • why would floyd waste his time with shane mosley? he has everything to lose and nothing to gain. Mosley is old, no1 wants to see this. I rather see mayweather vs berto or pacquiao or cotto.

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          • Originally posted by cottothechamp View Post
            why would floyd waste his time with shane mosley? he has everything to lose and nothing to gain. Mosley is old, no1 wants to see this. I rather see mayweather vs berto or pacquiao or cotto.
            Speak for yourself, most real boxing fans would love to see it; and if you think he has something to lose, that means you aren't confident that he can win. Mosley is the #1 ranked Welterweight at the moment, how hard is that to understand? Plus he's the #5 ranked P4P fighter. If fighting the best is wasting his time then he should stay retired.
            Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-16-2009, 10:17 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
              Speak for yourself, most real boxing fans would love to see it; and if you think he has something to lose, that means you aren't confident that he can win. Mosley is the #1 ranked Welterweight at the moment, how hard is that to understand? If fighting the best is wasting his time then he should stay retired.
              asking one of the best fighters to take a tough fight can get you in a lot of trouble...lol

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              • i think the floyd/ssm fight will be good

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                • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                  Which is exactly what you're doing. Any other fighter who claimed to be the man at Welterweight but didn't want to fight the no. 1 ranked Welterweight and #5 ranked P4P fighter "because it's not a big enough fight" would be laughed out of town. But people like you don't laugh when he says that because you think with your emotions instead of your brains. Boxing isn't just a business, it's also a sport. In a sport, the best have to fight the best in order to retain credibility.


                  Boxing is a business first(money) and you're ignorant if you don't believe that. There are many factors in why fights don't get made including promotional conflicts. During a time when Shane Mosley was the man he turned down a fight with Mayweather. Was he scared? No. He had bigger fights on the horizon. Now the tables are turned and Mosley knows Mayweather is the draw. But people like you want to spin these facts for your benefit when it concerns a fighter you don't like. Mosley wouldn't go anywhere near Paul Williams because of the risk/reward factor. His own father said that. Cotto and Bob Arum didn't want any part of Paul Williams. Margario didn't even want a rematch with Williams after losing the first fight. Why? Business first, sport second. You're a perfect example of thinking with your emotions.

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                  • Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                    Boxing is a business first(money) and you're ignorant if you don't believe that. There are many factors in why fights don't get made including promotional conflicts. During a time when Shane Mosley was the man he turned down a fight with Mayweather. Was he scared? No. He had bigger fights on the horizon. Now the tables are turned and Mosley knows Mayweather is the draw. But people like you want to spin these facts for your benefit when it concerns a fighter you don't like. Mosley wouldn't go anywhere near Paul Williams because of the risk/reward factor. His own father said that. Cotto and Bob Arum didn't want any part of Paul Williams. Margario didn't even want a rematch with Williams after losing the first fight. Why? Business first, sport second. You're a perfect example of thinking with your emotions.
                    LOL! First of all I like Mayweather the fighter, and would say the same about any other fighter in the same situation. I think he thoroughly deserved the #1 P4P ranking he had before he retired. I have no emotional attachment at all. Whereas you clearly do have an emotional attachment.

                    Second, boxing will cease to be a successful business once it loses credibility as a sport. It is boxing the sport that makes boxing the business viable.

                    In fact, that is a major reason why it isn't mainstream like it used to be, because (until the last year or so) the best weren't fighting the best often enough.

                    If Marg had kept winning (and hadn't been caught cheating) he'd have fought Williams again eventually. It was understandable that he didn't want to fight him as a tune-up for the Cotto rematch that was supposed to be happening in June. But he'd have fought him eventually.

                    The only reasons a lot of people give Mosley a pass for avoiding Williams are because of his age, and the fact that he's fought so many high risk opponents in the past, including in his last fight.

                    Moving up two divisions to challenge De La Hoya, who was ranked #1 P4P when Mosley first moved up, rather than fight Mayweather, cannot be compared with wanting to fight boxers from a lower weight class in preference to the top fighters in your own division, especially when you have won a lineal title in that division, claimed to be the best in that division, and yet have never defended against a single top contender. Especially as the top 4 Welterweights now are all a lot better than either Judah or Boldomir were. And especially when he is claiming to be one of the top 10 or so P4P fighters of all time.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-16-2009, 02:47 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                      Partially true about some extreme haters, perhaps, but not about genuine boxing fans, and certainly not about the post he was replying to, which was perfectly rational and reasonable, if you read it properly. But there is nothing rational or reasonable about Horus. He doesn't come here to discuss boxing with people, he comes here to do battle on behalf of his idol. He's the sort of guy who kisses a photo of his idol when he gets up in the morning and before he goes to bed at night. He doesn't support Mayweather, he worships him. He doesn't hope to meet his maker when he dies, he hopes to meet his Mayweather.
                      Well there seems to be quite alot of them around these parts.

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