Mayweather vs. Marquez Negotiations Stalled on Weight

[$partacus]

Al, do YOU feel that Floyd is a natural WW?

btw, I don't engage in the name calling, Please stop that.

No i don't, but if he can make 140 why make JMM move upto 147, it's a ***** move that gives Floyd a bigger advantage. If Floyd wants to fight at 147, fight the guys in the 147 division.

[xAUGUSTUSx]

From a competitive aspect, do you think the fight is a different fight at 140?

If so, please explain why.

Of course it is. Personally I think Hatton vs Mayweather would've been a completly different fight at 140. Marquez will be moving up even if it's 140. Marquez will be to far out of his territory if he fights at 147. If Marquez was coming off an inppressive win at 140 then I would'nt think it was that big of a deal. He just fought a light hitting but agressive lightweight. That does nothing for me to think that he would be competitive at 147. 140 levels it out for both fighters and would make it a historic fight. Mayweather wants it at 147 so he'll be the stronger guy and then he'll still make JMM chase him around for 10 rounds before he'll actually try to walk the little guy into a KO

[Ishy Aytan]

No i don't, but if he can make 140 why make JMM move upto 147, it's a ***** move that gives Floyd a bigger advantage. If Floyd wants to fight at 147, fight the guys in the 147 division.

What and take a tune up against green fighters like Berto? If Floyd took and beat Berto, its fair to say Berto's career, for a few years, will be in jeopardy.

Marquez has nothing to lose in a fight with Floyd at 147.

And Floyd has'nt fought at 140 in years, what makes you think he could 'comfortably' make 140?

[Ishy Aytan]

lol Well that sums up Mayweather. He'll avoid any real WW's at all cost.

Technically Floyd should feel blessed that a legend and former Featherweight even called his name out, as if his name mattered, especially after that weak ass run Floyd put on. I mean Baldomir over Cotto? lol I mean Hatton over Cotto?..........Really Floyd?

Marquez isn't even fully effective at 135, his natural skill is the one thing making his reign at lightweight better then the likes of Paq. Then Floyd comes out of the shadows like a broad and requests 147 for a fight with Marquez?

lol Yo...stay retired. The sport was finally on the up-swing with Paq and Calzaghe runnin out of cherry picks, but here comes weak ass Floyd to keep that **** alive?

Yeah, its a ***** move not to take a tune up agaisnt Mosley or Cotto before a potential big fight against Pacman?

Be real guys. You guys are talking ****.

[S.G.]

i must say i'm disappointed that floyd would refuse to fight him at 140 or a catchweight lower than 145

beating him at 147 would take from the win

[Ishy Aytan]

i must say i'm disappointed that floyd would refuse to fight him at 140 or a catchweight lower than 145

beating him at 147 would take from the win

Yeh but from his point of view, why should he take a tune up at 140 when he has no intentions of staying at 140? Does that make any sense?

[thebowtod]

floyd is running out of excuses.. lol

[xAUGUSTUSx]

What and take a tune up against green fighters like Berto? If Floyd took and beat Berto, its fair to say Berto's career, for a few years, will be in jeopardy.

Marquez has nothing to lose in a fight with Floyd at 147.

And Floyd has'nt fought at 140 in years, what makes you think he could 'comfortably' make 140?

Because all the fighters that Floyd is interested in fighting are at 140 or lower. If he can't make 140 than he needs to call out WW it's plain and SIMPLE! for people like you to understand as well

[$partacus]

Yeah, its a ***** move not to take a tune up agaisnt Mosley or Cotto before a potential big fight against Pacman?

Be real guys. You guys are talking ****.

Talking ****? If Floyd can make 140 he should move down, If he don't it will be assumed that he can't and is a natural 147 fighter, You're making it seem like it's a bad thing that people are wanting fighters to fight guys out of the same weight division.

[QUISQUEYA]

Of course it is. Personally I think Hatton vs Mayweather would've been a completly different fight at 140. Marquez will be moving up even if it's 140. Marquez will be to far out of his territory if he fights at 147. If Marquez was coming off an inppressive win at 140 then I would'nt think it was that big of a deal. He just fought a light hitting but agressive lightweight. That does nothing for me to think thta he would be competitive at 147. 140 levels it out for both fighters and would make it a historic fight.

You are not explaining WHY.

For example: what if Floyd said to Marquez: "i will fight you ate 175". Neither guy is obligated to blow up to LHW. The reality is that Floyd is gonna come into the ring at his best weight, and Marquez will come in at his best weight. The weight is a WEIGHT LIMIT. Not a minimum or "must hit".

This is exemplified by "The World Awaits". The limit was 154. Floyd was 150 for weigh-in, and 148 on fight night. FMJ didn't "get big" for that fight. The weight allowed Oscar not to drain himself...100% flexibility to not dehydrate on fight week.

That is why I laugh at the unknowledgeable posters who lament that "Undefeated" was held at 147. The reality is that Hatton was still 154 on fight night, and Floyd was 148. Spo the higher weight class gave Hatton the flexibility to not dry down as he normally does. That is why he looked so good at the weigh-in, as opposed to his gum-chewing, gaunt appearance at many of his weigh-ins.


The ONLY thing that would make sense in your hypothesis is if you feel that Mayweather would be weakened by making the 140 limit. And I guess my question would be why you would WANT to see a weakened fighter - any fighter - in a big fight.

Any-hoo, regardless of the contracted weight, Mayweather will be 147-148 on fight night. That is highly predictable. I guess marquez would be about 145.

This is how he currently looks. Still the same: