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Williams Can Beat Pavlik and Abraham, Says Wright
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Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-12-2009, 01:51 PM.
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Originally posted by Da Hammer View PostPavlik and Abraham have too much power for Williams i think both KO him if they land clean like Winky was able to do more than a couple times when he did throw. Williams is a freak of nature no doubt but i dont think he has the natural power to hang with prime Pavlik and Abraham!
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Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx View PostAbraham does'nt hide in Germany. He's from Germany you clown. I'm from Winnipeg so thats where I fight out of. Everyone seems to forget that he just came to the states and fought Miranda. The US is **** for boxing and thats why it does'nt even matter to them. Like he cares to have fans like you anyway. You know your just all over Williams **** and balls because he's black. I think him and Pavlik would be good but Abraham smashes him.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostIn theory, but both Pavlik and Abrahams are quite skilled. They are limited, but it takes a special type of fighter to school them. Williams may be able to school them, but he hasn't proved it yet, IMO. He didn't school Winky, he outworked him, and he did take some flush punches from him, that would have hurt him if they had been landed by Pavlik or Abrahams.
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Originally posted by Walt Liquor View PostC'mon Rado, you usually make good points but don't give me that garbage. Outworked????? How about that right hook that almost took Winky off his feet, how about the right AND left hooks to the body that were behind Winky's elbows because the man's arms are so long, how about the double and triple jab that got through all night, or the uppercuts right through Winky's guard. EVERYONE takes some flush shots in a 12 rd fight from Winky Wright, who is WAAAAAY more slick than Pavlik. Winky had nothing for PWill's combos. Maybe I'm not very eductated so please tell me what the difference is between schooling and outworking. It's not like PWill couldn't do anything he wanted in the ring. It seems you are trying to detract from PWill's game and overall skill set by claiming he's some sort of Margarito who just throws more punches than the other guy. Pwill's head movement is excellent, so are his angles, footwork, and rhythm.Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-12-2009, 06:59 PM.
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Originally posted by Da Hammer View PostPavlik and Abraham have too much power for Williams i think both KO him if they land clean like Winky was able to do more than a couple times when he did throw. Williams is a freak of nature no doubt but i dont think he has the natural power to hang with prime Pavlik and Abraham!
is the goods & tough enough to be the favorite in any match
up at this point because we don't know what to expect but he keeps impressing us.Last edited by GRUSTLER; 04-12-2009, 08:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostI agree that he's far more skilled than Marg, he's not just a volume fighter. He probably would beat AA and Pavlik. But I don't think it's a dead cert, given their power. And don't forget that Marg gave him more trouble than Winky did (although his skills have improved since then).
veryone else in mw and jmw. All due to styles. Pavlik could ko him for sure. I think u have to box 12 rds to beat Kirkland and pwill likes to fight too much. Aa is too well rounded and strong. Pwill can't just turn him like he could pavlik. I might change my mind closer one of these if the fights are made
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostGreat boxers don't care where the fight is. It would probably make more money in Germany, for one thing. Ali fought all over the world.
They think Vegas and MSG.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
How does fighting in America in and of itself make you great? If you have to fight there for commercial reasons, so be it, but the fact you fought there isn't what makes you great, it's only who you fought and how well you fought that matters. If you have to fight there because the other guy is too scared to fight outside his own country, even when there is much more money to be made in a different country, that sucks.
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