Now is there ANY QUESTION that Oscar was dehydrated and weight-drained?!?!

[ßringer]

For the record : I still favor Pacquiao to TKO Hatton on accumulation.

But if the referee doesn't really mind Hatton holding, Pacquiao is in for a rough night.

[ELPacman]

I know Oscar was weight drained. That doesn't mean he wasn't strong still in the first 3 rounds or so. He came out confidently, but didn't know wtf to do. I mean, how much argument can you make for a guy that was picking on the little guy? I guess we forgot about that...

[QUISQUEYA]

Champ,

How come you are a completely reasonable person when you are discussing pac-hatton, and you become a raving lunatic whenever somebody suggests that Cotto MAY not be the Second coming of Jesus Christ?

[loui_ludwig]

Oscar was the favourite based on what we did NOT KNOW. If somebody had said " Oscar will weigh in at 145, gain no weight, and take an IV right before the fight", who would be the favourite then?

In fact, I think anyone in the top ten at LW or JWW would beat oscar that night. Mosley, Margarito, Berto, Cotto, etc would have put him down. Multiple times.

But like i said, blame Oscar and his team for that. Pac came to do his thing. Roach and Team Pac prepared him for this fight. Pac fulfill his role.

Give Pac credit, he moved up 2 weight divisions to fight Oscar. But his team did their math, can't say that for team golden boy.

[ßringer]

Yeah, seems to me like Pac became Pernell Whitaker after beating Diaz and DLH. All this "He will box circles around Hatton" Oh please, lets judge Pac on a serious opponent and he hasn't faced one over 130. That is the sad truth

Don't even get me started on Diaz and Oscar.

Thank Christ Freddie came clean about Oscar being drained, and now whenever I see a Pacfan say otherwise I can just embed the video and pwn them.

But Diaz is just as bad. People act like he was a serious Champion or something. He got his ass whipped by a 167 year old, mummified version of Morales and barely escaped with that decision.

Marquez's win over Casamayor meant more than that.

I know Casamayor should've lost the belt Santa Cruz. But casting that aside, he was on a roll going into Marquez fight coming off a hot KO win over Katsidis.

'Casa's KO of Katsidis is better than damn near anything Diaz ever did at 135.

He was the definition of a paper Champion.

****, Manny felt so bad that the guy couldn't even defend himself that he made Bob Arum pay him twice as much as he was supposed to get.

[dondi330]

I judge hatton on his style, I really dont care how his fight went with Collazo or Mayweather...

Styles usually make fights but when you throw a fighter that has fought his whole career at 140 with a fighter who started at 107, went up to 115,122,125,130,one fight at 135 and one at 140.
Eventually your style will become futile.
Trinidad was KOing everyone at 140, 147 and a couple at 154, when he hit 160 his KO style didn't matter anymore.
You have to know your limits.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Champ,

How come you are a completely reasonable person when you are discussing pac-hatton, and you become a raving lunatic whenever somebody suggests that Cotto MAY not be the Second coming of Jesus Christ?

I guess my pride takes over.

I just get mad, when people call Cotto a quitter and ****, when he gave his all.

And when somebody goes, well Williams KTFO Cotto in 4 rounds he doesnt have a chace, da,dad,da you know.

I think Cotto gives hell to anybody.

[loui_ludwig]

This is just another Pac hate thread.

[xcaret]

I guess my pride takes over.

I just get mad, when people call Cotto a quitter and ****, when he gave his all.

And when somebody goes, well Williams KTFO Cotto in 4 rounds he doesnt have a chace, da,dad,da you know.

I think Cotto gives hell to anybody.

cotto is a ***in quitter


Oscar > Pacquiao in his prime

[El Dominicano]

Don't even get me started on Diaz and Oscar.

Thank Christ Freddie came clean about Oscar being drained, and now whenever I see a Pacfan say otherwise I can just embed the video and pwn them.

But Diaz is just as bad. People act like he was a serious Champion or something. He got his ass whipped by a 167 year old, mummified version of Morales and barely escaped with that decision.

Marquez's win over Casamayor meant more than that.

I know Casamayor should've lost the belt Santa Cruz. But casting that aside, he was on a roll going into Marquez fight coming off a hot KO win over Katsidis.

'Casa's KO of Katsidis is better than damn near anything Diaz ever did at 135.

He was the definition of a paper Champion.

****, Manny felt so bad that the guy couldn't even defend himself that he made Bob Arum pay him twice as much as he was supposed to get.

Exactly! Like...why not Nate? Nate would have been a much better opponent. By the way, I had Casa up by 2 rounds after gettin K.O'd by JMM, even though Casa looked like **** against Cruz...I think it was because he didn't take him serious at all and Kat gettin stopped, I was so happy about that. Katsidis was gettin seriously hyped at the time and we all saw how Jesus Chavez was whoppin that ass