Who is P4P if Mayweather returns ?

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  • Horus
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    #131
    Originally posted by AssasinKing
    Its true, it applies to any sport really. If the "best" retires...n floyd was the best p4p figher when he retired....So if they did retire n take a year n a half or so break, when they come back of course every1 is going to EXPECT them to pick up where they left off..

    so a normal person is going to expect more of floyd, and him to come back with a **** to prove hes still the fighter he was..in order for him to prove hes still number 1. Yeah it will be a tune up fight first, but it doesn't have to be a sloppy fighter just to prove he still has it. If he came back with a big fight and won it...in my eyes he will reclaim that pfp #1 spot. Even tho i think pacman would give him a run for his money, i think if he beat some1 like JMM (dunno if tht would happen) but a high profile person, he takes his spot back and i think its down to pacman to take the spot from him in a fight as im sure they could meet at a weight they are both comfortable at...light welter maybe? Especially if pac beats hatton, will probs tempt floyd even more. (Thats if he is willing to fight the best)
    you are the first person to be honest about the reality of the situation

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    • QUISQUEYA
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      #132
      Originally posted by aether
      pac accomplished more than floyd
      Beating an anorexic ******?

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      • aether
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        #133
        Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
        Beating an anorexic ******?
        even if he lost to dlh, pac beat better competition than floyd

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #134
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          Name and shame.

          Pacquiao by most peoples estimation has a better resume than Mayweather so ..........how could he possibly be the better fighter, if he has not BEATEN better fighters? That just does not make sense to me.

          The only case you could make is that Mayweather is still undefeated and Pac isn't, but then you could counter that by saying, if Mayweather had the sheer amount of fights Pacquiao has had, and the amount of quality fighters, then he to would of a lost.
          Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 04-13-2009, 07:40 AM.

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          • rocky_balboa23
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            #135
            Originally posted by KESSLER
            I'm a big fan of Ricky Hatton, I hope he crushes Pacman so I don't have to see his overrated face again .
            lol..from a big Hatton fan saying Pac is overrated..lol

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            • Njord777
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              #136
              Pound for Pound status is mythological. It can be debated, argued, reevaluated; because it's based on achievements, regardless of weight, and centers on who did you fight, where did they factor into the division, and how did you win?

              If two fighters had the exact same resume, but one knocked out more of the common opponents, there's a very good chance he'd been seen as the better pound for pound fighter. Why? The way in which he won.

              Further, if a wrecking ball like Valero knocks out everyone, but doesn't fight any big names, a feather fisted competitor of his, like Juan Diaz, would definitely be ranked higher due to his resume, despite not winning by devastating fashion.

              Floyd knocked out Hatton, who had shown he was probably too small for welterweight in the past (late in the Collazo fight), but did so in impressive fashion against a highly ranked challenger, and so got his props.

              Since he left, though, other fighters have continued to achieve.

              Pacquiao:

              1.) Beat the man who is now ranke #2 pound for pound and whom Floyd is talking about coming back against in a fight for the WBC strap.

              2.) Moved up in weight to capture yet another title, against solid- if not very respected- David Diaz, though he battered the man; and this was a move up in weight to capture yet another title.

              3.) Pounded Oscar like a drum. Just awful. Domination.

              4.) (Hypothetically) Beats Ricky Hatton. For argument let's say it's a good UD.

              Now enter previous pound for pound star Mayweather:

              1.) In decemeber of 2007 KO's Ricky.

              2.) Makes a comeback with a sharp, good looking UD against Marquez.



              .....Well....I mean, Manny already beat that same Marquez, so it doesn't allow Floyd to leap frog him- especially if Manny just beat, or knocked out, the last man Floyd had fought two years earlier in Hatton.

              Really, Pacquiao is a clear favorite as he moved up in weight, took another belt (something Floyd has always been more than proud of flaunting when he did it) and destroyed Oscar.

              It's def. still Manny. Floyd has to fight for it.

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