Roy Jones the farud

[KiloTeague]

Completely annihilated? Nah mate, he dominated the fight but you're talking out of your ass there. Doesn't matter that Toney was prime....he was a shadow of himself that night and it was to do with him being dangerously drained. And bringing up Toney's resume means little....I see you've yet to learn that styles make fights.

Roy was P4P no. 1 and still on top of his game before he fought Tarver, if you're gonna discredit Tarver's win you'd need to do the same with Roy's. Otherwise you just look like a hardcore nuthugger.

If you think Roy was the same at 36 as he was when he killed Toney, your on crack too. Every great fighter, Ali, Lewis, Robinson, had lost by the age of 33. Roy didn't loose till he was 36. Age is what it is. At 36 he was not in his prime. And so I'm not a hypocrit, at 36 no fighter is what he once was. There ya go. Now if you loose in your prime then you just werent that good. Some fighters don't loose in there prime though. Roy/floyd etc.

[The Gunner]

Legit Loss. Now I know your a dumbass. Montell was on the ground KO'd when they dq Roy lil homy. Legit loss when the other guy is on the ground. Please player, now since I know you are a joke, I'm done with you. Thanks for saying that was a legit loss so that I know you are a crack head. Your gun is shooting blanks, hopefully you are too. It wouldn't be fair to your kid if you were his dad. Hes guaranteed to be ******.

Now i know you aint saw the fight "lil homie" LMAO!

Griffin had took a knee and still had ALL his senses about him. After he had took the knee Roy hit him and KO'd him. Roy got DQ'd for an illegal KO so how could Griffin be KO'd at that time ?

Griffin was KO'd my arse when Roy smashed him LOL!!!

[The Gunner]

If you think Roy was the same at 36 as he was when he killed Toney, your on crack too. Every great fighter, Ali, Lewis, Robinson, had lost by the age of 33. Roy didn't loose till he was 36. Age is what it is. At 36 he was not in his prime. And so I'm not a hypocrit, at 36 no fighter is what he once was. There ya go. Now if you loose in your prime then you just werent that good. Some fighters don't loose in there prime though. Roy/floyd etc.

Stop making excuses nobody was saying he was old when he moved up to HW.

[KiloTeague]

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Bernard Hopkins: Tarver, Pavlik, Winky and Glen Johnson

Joe Calzaghe: Jeff Lacy, Chris Eubank, Mikkel Kessler and Bernard Hopkins

James Toney: Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, Vassiliy Jirov, Iran Barkley

theres 3 right there for you from modern times.

Thanks for making my point. Roy beat two of the guys you got up there in there prime so he beat the best. Thaks guy. you shot your foot with that one. Ha ha

[Vivid Intent]

If you think Roy was the same at 36 as he was when he killed Toney, your on crack too. Every great fighter, Ali, Lewis, Robinson, had lost by the age of 33. Roy didn't loose till he was 36. Age is what it is. At 36 he was not in his prime. And so I'm not a hypocrit, at 36 no fighter is what he once was. There ya go. Now if you loose in your prime then you just werent that good. Some fighters don't loose in there prime though. Roy/floyd etc.

When he killed Toney? I think you're the one on crack man...he didn't even have Toney in serious trouble. A weight-drained shell of Toney at that.

Your theory of age is laughable, in boxing we go by ring age. Roy's mileage was nothing by that time, he'd made a career out of beating off duty cops/postmen/shot or drained fighters. You tell me where the wear and tear came from? Jones looked outstanding against Woods just before moving up to heavyweight. No excuses.

[The Gunner]

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Thanks for making my point. Roy beat two of the guys you got up there in there prime so he beat the best. Thaks guy. you shot your foot with that one. Ha ha

Hopkins wasn't prime stop talking crap LOL!! Even Roy admits they were both green at the time, every Roy fan on the board will tell you this. You have to be the worst in this thread so far...by a mile LOL!

Lets use your logic, out of the 4 best fighters i mensioned Calzahe beat the best two...Does that make Calzaghe better than Roy in your opinion?

Hopkins primed... *Laughs out ****in loud*

[The Gunner]

When he killed Toney? I think you're the one on crack man...he didn't even have Toney in serious trouble. A weight-drained shell of Toney at that.

Your theory of age is laughable, in boxing we go by ring age. Roy's mileage was nothing by that time, he'd made a career out of beating off duty cops/postmen/shot or drained fighters. You tell me where the wear and tear came from? Jones looked outstanding against Woods just before moving up to heavyweight. No excuses.

I cant beleive some of the "far out" things this guy is posting.

I hope he sticks around, great for a laugh.

[KiloTeague]

Now i know you aint saw the fight "lil homie" LMAO!

Griffin had took a knee and still had ALL his senses about him. After he had took the knee Roy hit him and KO'd him. Roy got DQ'd for an illegal KO so how could Griffin be KO'd at that time ?

Griffin was KO'd my arse when Roy smashed him LOL!!!

Youtube? Its on Youtube. Its easy to find player. Montell didn't take a knee. He got dropped to his knee. Go ahead, use your eyes.

Did he take a knee twice in a minute in the second fight two? You are a joke. Even when Roy beats that tail in the next fight, you still talk about the first like Montell was better or had a chance or waxn't gonna get turned inside out very soon. Incredible. Why am I still arguing with your dumb tail.

[KiloTeague]

Its funny how you say Roy never fought anyone, but than the two people you say are better, Bernard and James, Roy beat. I mean it really doesn't matter who he would of fought if you still have the lack of brains to make that argument.

[Spirit]

Roy was losing 18lbs that is what Roy was losing and with dietitions and nutritionist that are going about these days dropping muscle can be down quite easily. Obviously Roy did lose a lot of muscle i'm not trying to say he wasn't drained badly because obviously he was but it is nowhere near as drastic as gets made out.....Like you just done two seconds ago when you stated he done this in 4 months. Obviously that is more horse**** you're spewing because the fight in question when Roy got KTFO was 14 months after Roy had put the weight on. James Toneys body mass and frame had been growing and it was making it physicaly impossible for him to get to 168, it wasn't PHYSICALY impossible for Roy to get down in weight especially after 14 MONTHS....Toney was DANGEROUSLY weight drained for his fight with Roy, to the stage where doctors were telling him not to fight.

As i was saying, you should be more like CWR he atleast seems to know what he is talking about.

You should study the human anatomy, hell just ask your physician about losing something equivalent to 20 lbs of muscle in that short a timespan. If youre going to dispute that make sure you do your homework.

Now really dude I know Ive made you look ****** throughout your thread, but you seem to be taking over for me. Did it take 14 months for RJJ to lose that weight or did he fight Tarver prior to the KO loss? I remember him weighing in at 175, thus having to make weight for the first Tarver bout as well. If you knew just a tiny bit about neurology youd know this: Once neural tissue damage occurs it can not be restored.

However you twist and turn it, Toney was the only one to blame for his weight problems, Jones wasnt.

As for CWR, would you like me to quote him or are you capable enough to read back and see how right he is?