Roy Jones the farud

[Spirit]

Why the **** are you bringing up Jones losing the weight against Tarver? Nobodys denying that yet you groupies who lust after Roy get a hardon and bring it up whenever Toneys mensioned. Toney was ****ed that night, QuittoWillReturn is right....Toney had a drip hanging out him to him rehydrate as he slept before the fight. Think Oscar vs Pacquiao...Thats Roy vs Toney.

So were resorting to swearing now? Are you frustrated by being called a hater? I thought this was meant to be a decent discussion

I didnt bring that up cottowillreturnorsumthing did, again Im really questoning your ability to read and understand . Im comparing just like I did Hearns and Jones when I was replying to you. As far as that dude being right, youre not denying facts presented by me and youre agreeing with this dude so youre contradicting yourself

But what the hell like I said earlier YOU DONT LISTEN so good luck with your thread

[The Gunner]

So were resorting to swearing now? Are you frustrated by being called a hater? I thought this was meant to be a decent discussion

I didnt bring that up cottowillreturnorsumthing did, again Im really questoning your ability to read and understand . Im comparing just like I did Hearns and Jones when I was replying to you. As far as that dude being right, youre not denying facts presented by me and youre agreeing with this dude so youre contradicting yourself

But what the hell like I said earlier YOU DONT LISTEN so good luck with your thread

No, what you're trying to do is discuss everything except the topic at hand. What does Hearns have to do with this thread and what does Roys weight against Tarver have to do with it? If he brought it up then my bad, you still try to deflect the thread by bringing up Hearns though....So forgive me if you didn't bring up Tarver, you had previous for **** like that in here already though.

[Dynamite Kid]

Dont come at me with that **** ive ran boxing sites for 4 years now, its my business to watch these fights. I own career sets of anyone who is anyone in boxing, i even get these fights as gifts in the past. I had the fight a draw but the fact is Toney lost.

To a jabroni

Cough bull****.

[Dynamite Kid]

Mitchell and Brewer were jobbed out their titles son, you need to educate yourself here.

By rights Calzaghes win over Mitchell should have been a linear title fight.

Like you keep telling me facts dont lie. Both lost their title before Calzaghe fought them. Herol Graham at age 37 was giving Mitchell a Boxing lesson. The guy was fcukin **** world champion.

[Dynamite Kid]

Mitchell i mean

[Dynamite Kid]

The gunner >>>Trolls the internet looking for articles to fights, because he has not seen them

[Roger Mellie]

The title line of this thread makes roy sound like an ancient arabic king!

[sL0]

Joe stayed comfortably in England, in the SMW division. Meanwhile, Roy was moving up. He wasn't facing the best, this I know, but at least he was making moves in other divisions. Hell, he could've stayed at SMW too, and then we would probably have a much different ending than Joes 20+ defences, and 46-0 record. One can only speculate though.

[The Gunner]

Cough bull****.

Which part? Tell me so i can own you some more LOL!

Like you keep telling me facts dont lie. Both lost their title before Calzaghe fought them. Herol Graham at age 37 was giving Mitchell a Boxing lesson. The guy was fcukin **** world champion.

Mitchell never fought Graham, no need to make **** up now.

Mitchell i mean

The gunner >>>Trolls the internet looking for articles to fights, because he has not seen them

Ive not saw it yet i tell you i scored it even....HAHA I explained to you earlier, i watch the fights of anyone who is anyone....So, with Phoney almost being an "anyone" i watched his.

Joe stayed comfortably in England, in the SMW division. Meanwhile, Roy was moving up. He wasn't facing the best, this I know, but at least he was making moves in other divisions. Hell, he could've stayed at SMW too, and then we would probably have a much different ending than Joes 20+ defences, and 46-0 record. One can only speculate though.

Exactly !!!!!

[Vivid Intent]

Youre even funnier than gunner, really! So Toney had to lose 35-40 pounds while being out of shape huh? I suppose being out of shape and all he had to lose that amount in muscle . Was Jones out of shape when he had to lose 25 lbs? Was it not Toney's lack of discipline that cost him that fight in contrary to Jones' desire to get his titles back?

As for Ruiz I already said he isnt that good, but if we're talking facts here didnt he beat Holyfield, Rahman, Johnson and Golota? Did you think the fights with Valuev were lopsided in favor of Valuev? Was Ruiz not younger, bigger and stronger than Jones was? Ruiz has never looked good and calling me biased towards him is plain ridiculous just like you are

Its a good thing youre used to feeling embarrassed cuz this should really be embarrassing

It's well documented Toney was out of shape son, you only need to do a quick google search to educate yourself. He'd been killing himself to make the 168 limit for a while, and wanted to fight Roy at 175. Roy only wanted the fight at 168 cuz he knew Toney would be dead at the weight, and he could continue conning gullible idiots like yourself. It was just too much money to turn down so Toney said **** it, anyone who has watched Toney's previous fights could see he wasn't there that night.

And Ruiz is ****, he has some good names on his resume that he hugged his way to a win. I give Jones credit for going from MW to HW but let's keep it in perspective, Ruiz is a limited, garbage fighter who was taylor made for someone with Roy's speed and reflexes.

Like I said, I was always a fan of Jones but the hype he gets from delusional nuthuggers like yourself almost makes me want to hate him.

Anyone notice a pattern during Calzaghe's reign?

Mitchell lost his title before he fought Calzaghe

Brewer lost his title before he fought Calzaghe

Ried lost his title before he fought Calzaghe

Woodhall lost his title before he fought Calzaghe

Eubank lost his title before he fought Calzaghe

Jones career ended in 2004.

Hopkins was 43 years old, and i dont consider Joe to have won that fight. Niether of them deserved to win that fight. More so Cazlaghe though. He was not landing punches.

Should i mention Pudwill/Manfredo ??

Mitchell was robbed, Woodhall was robbed, Brewer was robbed (although he lost to Echols in between in a non-title fight, but he got robbed of his title), Eubank had a close fight with Collins, and Ried lost fair and square. He had issues before the Sugar Boy fight and put in a performance that was well below par, but still no excuse.

Watching the fights > Reading off boxrec

Mitchell never fought Graham, no need to make **** up now.

This guy's getting ****d from all angles :bukkake: