HBO and SHOWTIME....what's going on?

[QUISQUEYA]

Gamboa fights on all three networks, so I'm sure HBO will have him again. HBO has been doing a good job at only picking up what they view as good competitive fights, for the most part, and Gomboa's next fight really doesn't look like it's going to be competitive.

The thing is, HBO can basically make these up-n-coming fighters get into more competitive bouts. That is what Bruce Trampler did for so long with Top Rank, and that's why Oscar and Floyd became superstars. In part.

[ИATAS]

The thing is, HBO can basically make these up-n-coming fighters get into more competitive bouts.

How so? Gamboa fights so frequently that he likes to fight lesser opponents just to stay active. HBO can say, "hey we want you to fight so and so" but Gomboa will just fight on ESPN or Showtime and when he steps up he'll be on HBO.

[supRa]

yea i got shocked when i saw taylor preview in showtime... lol i ithought it was gonna be in HBO..
i guess they perfered pavlik

[Bushbaby]

Showtime still has more fights of the year than HBO,it seems to me like HBO is more into already made superstars,than bringing in the up and comers,Angulo and Kirkland fought on Showtime before HBO!!!!!!1

[QUISQUEYA]

How so? Gamboa fights so frequently that he likes to fight lesser opponents just to stay active. HBO can say, "hey we want you to fight so and so" but Gomboa will just fight on ESPN or Showtime and when he steps up he'll be on HBO.

If Gamboa was to lose to one of those bustas on ESPN, then he seriously damages his commercial viability for HBO without ever getting that/those big HBO payday(s).

He needs to take the approach like Mayweather did. Fight exclusively for them with a contract. Because they were high on Floyd, Arum made HBO lock in exclusivity. If HBO is high on Gamboa, **** or get off the pot.

Keep in mind that HBO is quick to drop a knicca. Ask Jermain Taylor, Vernon Forrest and Kassim Ouma.

[Guest]

I love the no contracts situation.

I mean we've been forced to watch great fighters fight subpar competition, think Floyd-Bruseles and watch guys like Ruiz and Dominic Guinn get shot after shot and stink it up.

Taylor had some good fights on HBO, but fights like Spinks etc aren't fan friendly.

And things like Dirrell-Stevens and at an earlier point Judah-Witter were painful to watch.

You want the big money and a contract. Then earn it and make it worthwhile for all of us.

HBO is entertainment and if the fighters don't entertain, that's on them.

[QUISQUEYA]

I love the no contracts situation.

I mean we've been forced to watch great fighters fight subpar competition, think Floyd-Bruseles and watch guys like Ruiz and Dominic Guinn get shot after shot and stink it up.

Taylor had some good fights on HBO, but fights like Spinks etc aren't fan friendly.

And things like Dirrell-Stevens and at an earlier point Judah-Witter were painful to watch.

You want the big money and a contract. Then earn it and make it worthwhile for all of us.

HBO is entertainment and if the fighters don't entertain, that's on them.

Wait. Taylor "deserved" a break from the Hopkins-Hopkins-Winky run. It was HBO's fault for even booking a Cory Spinks bout. What was the last entertaining Cory Spinks bout? Zab judah. Why? Because Zab was pinballing his ass around the ring.

You can't be mad at Judah-Witter on paper.Remember that was the era when Judah looked unbeatable.

Overall, Floyd did HBO right. The Corrales fight. 2 Castillo fights. Blowing out Manfredy. The wars with Chavez, Augustus and N'Dou. The Gatti PPV. The Judah fight with the brawl. Corley was entertaining. The Hatton mega-event. And the biggest commercial fight in history. And the 24/7 franchise.

Yes, there were a few Bruseles gimmes thrown in there. But Floyd worked his way up from KO Nation, to B.A.D. to WCB to PPV monster shows. HBO got their money's worth.

[Guest]

Wait. Taylor "deserved" a break from the Hopkins-Hopkins-Winky run. It was HBO's fault for even booking a Cory Spinks bout. What was the last entertaining Cory Spinks bout? Zab judah. Why? Because Zab was pinballing his ass around the ring.

You can't be mad at Judah-Witter on paper.Remember that was the era when Judah looked unbeatable.

Overall, Floyd did HBO right. The Corrales fight. 2 Castillo fights. Blowing out Manfredy. The wars with Chavez, Augustus and N'Dou. The Gatti PPV. The Judah fight with the brawl. Corley was entertaining. The Hatton mega-event. And the biggest commercial fight in history. And the 24/7 franchise.

Yes, there were a few Bruseles gimmes thrown in there. But Floyd worked his way up from KO Nation, to B.A.D. to WCB to PPV monster shows. HBO got their money's worth.

Yeah HBO punished Witter good for that one.
Taylor-Winky was awesome, Taylor-Hop ****** to me.
Cory Spinks shouldn't be allowed on tv LOL.

Yeah Floyd did fine with his contract, but I just think it keeps guys honest and perhaps the announcers less biased with few house fighters.
And it forces promoters to make great fights.

[QUISQUEYA]

Yeah HBO punished Witter good for that one.
Taylor-Winky was awesome, Taylor-Hop ****** to me.
Cory Spinks shouldn't be allowed on tv LOL.

Yeah Floyd did fine with his contract, but I just think it keeps guys honest and perhaps the announcers less biased with few house fighters.
And it forces promoters to make great fights.

The way to do it is with options contracts. Like they did with Vernon Forrest. After VF beat SSM, HBO wifed Vernon up. They were so high on him. He was an offensive fighter. Well-spoken. Brought the ******s to the fights. Yadda yadda.

But then he took a Mayorga right hand to the dome, got dropped like a hot potato (both in the ring, and by HBO) and his career STILL hasn't recovered.

[thebowtod]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, but ESPN is taking the best fights....lol