Reverse Racism In Boxing

[joseph5620]

I think he is still making the point that if someone said something like
"I'll never lose to a black boy" people would cry racism and jesse jackson would show up. And they probably would be condemned from this sport.

Delahoya said black fighters can't take body punches and had no heart. Alan Minter before his fight with Hagler said he would not let a black man beat him. So in other words, quit whining and get over it. And by the way, pill popping bigot Ann Coulter Rush Limabgh and ugly skank Ann Coulter are more annoying than Jesse Jackson ever will be

[KostyaTszyu44]

i dont really find whiteboy to be a racist term

[Pullcounter]

first off the reason i posted was in response to your opinion that Slavs are idiots for not feeling some sort of comradery and shared ideology with black americans cuz they have also endured oppression

so first you claim that Slavs (you yourself distinguishing Slavs from other whites) should relate better to blacks and share your approach of whining cuz of having endured the same thing

then in my next post when you quote a non Slavic persons "whining" and "adopting victimhood", which i said Slavs don't share with you, and equate that with Slavs cuz we are all white, completely contradicting yourself?

So Slavs should feel brotherhood with you one second and the next we are the same as all the "oppressive white devils holding the poor black man down"


your logic doesn't cease to amaze me




let me break it down, when i say that i (being a Slav) don't share your viewpoint althought both our peoples have been oppressed, then you quote a none Slavic person and try to attribute their opinion to me because we are both White, when your original argument was that Slavs are not like regular whites americans, you're an idiot

Its all about context my witless friend. There is no logical connection between the 2 arguments. Only a half-wit would fail to understand that.

My first point addressed you solely as a slav.

The second point addressed the hypocrisy of you, a white person, telling blacks to stop whining and claiming victimhood, when the whole purpose of this thread was about whiny white people claiming victimhood. Do you understand the hypocrisy of what you said? Do you o hyopricrit understand that u accused black people of the same thing that the starter of the thread tried to gain for himself?

And if you don't identify with either blacks as human beings or whites as a race, then you have no business posting in this thread. Why poke your nose in a thread that has nothing to do with you? What is the logic in that? Just because slavs are mentioned do you have to post? Why demean yourself and your intellect by conversing with idiots like me? Why waste you precious time reading my posts and responding? If I were as smart as you, this discussion would be beneath me. I wouldn't even respond because of the idiocy.

if I'm an idiot and you're a genius, why argue with me in the first place? Why dumb yourself down by bringing yourself down to my level? What do you have to gain by arguing with a simpleton like me? Only a fool argues with a fool.

Tell me are you a fool???

[dumber79]

i find white boy a racist term, as with honky, as i would if someone refered to a black guy as a n***r, if they are usd though just rise above it. hopkins is a racist prick and i don't give a **** if it was for PPV, he shouldnt have said it. if he can't sell PPV subs on him being a great boxer, which he is and has to refer to racist remarks, then he should ****ing hang him gloves up.

there are great black boxers, great white, great south americans, great asian - apart from khan he's **** - watch people say i'm being a racist for saying that, i'm not......he is ****!!!

[Khmelnytsky]

Its all about context my witless friend. There is no logical connection between the 2 arguments. Only a half-wit would fail to understand that.

My first point addressed you solely as a slav.

The second point addressed the hypocrisy of you, a white person, telling blacks to stop whining and claiming victimhood, when the whole purpose of this thread was about whiny white people claiming victimhood. Do you understand the hypocrisy of what you said? Do you o hyopricrit understand that u accused black people of the same thing that the starter of the thread tried to gain for himself?

Christ, my initial response was to you distinguishing us from other whites and saying we should share your embrace of victimhood, me stating that i don't

"check Jim Jeffries quote from above.... he is whining like a ***** and adopting victimhood. you fail."

and this is you using a non slavs whining to try and claim that Slavs do in fact embrace victimhood.........except that poster is not me and he's not Slavic, therefore your attempt to tear down my argument failed

stop before your head explodes

[Mr. Fantastic]

Delahoya said black fighters can't take body punches and had no heart. Alan Minter before his fight with Hagler said he would not let a black man beat him. So in other words, quit whining and get over it. And by the way, pill popping bigot Ann Coulter Rush Limabgh and ugly skank Ann Coulter are more annoying than Jesse Jackson ever will be

I don't recall DLH ever saying that about black fighters. Do you have a link or something with proof?

[Khmelnytsky]

"that's where our approaches differ, while i am (and the poster you originally said this too) are very aware of the experinces and history of our people we don't feel some sort of entitlement like we are owed, via implimenting social legislation to even the playing field type B.S. and don't sit around whining and crying about it like *******, nor do we adopt victimhood as part of our identity"

me, talking about my and a fellow Slavic posters perspective


"check Jim Jeffries quote from above.... he is whining like a ***** and adopting victimhood. you fail."

this is your response to my statement, notice how you didn't quote me or the other Slavic poster i was talking about but rather a "White American" and applied his actions us, which is irrelevant

so you fail, bye

[ßringer]

Everybody on this board (and in real life) focuses entirely too much on race as an issue.

It's no wonder the world is so fucking divided.

[Technical_Skill]

The Whole thing is getting silly now. More characterizations from Tunney aka Ironfist about Black people needing to move and get over slavery. He obviously doesn't understand the difference between moving on and forgetting.

The reality is blacks are enjoying far more prosperous lifestyles than they were centuries ago, which itself is an achievement because Black people even had to fight for the right to sit down on the bus for f.ucks sake. This in itself is a sign of progress.

If I walked into your house, ****d your mother, daughter and wife, and their kids, enslaved you all in your own home, and forced your wife to have children and sold them for cash. Would you ever forget that? , move on right, it happened

Do ***s need to need to 'move on' from the holocaust because they feel injustice at a system which allowed millions of them to be murdered systematically?

Even after slavery black people grew up in an America where they didn't have the same rights and their counterparts and the system was geared towards suppressing their economic advancement. And all this was going on 50/60 years ago, which is one or two generations.

I don't agree with Black people blaming all of our problems on white people, that's not true, black people need to look at the role models of their children and the way they allow the media to portray them.

But Ironfist aka Tunney thinks he clever by hinting at the old **** Aryan stereotypes of blacks

"The reason they have problems is simply down to poor organization skills, look at Africa"

They obviously have no idea of how western governments have continued to cripple Africa in the modern era by making crazy loans with crazy interest rates which increase dependence on the very people who helped to start the problem. Supporting and installing these crazy warlord dictators who **** and murder people for jokes.

The effects of colonization are still apparent today, so to simply say to a people, "move on", I don't think it works like that.

Especially if by saying "move on" you mean blacks and ***s just forget these things happened.

My opinion.

[Mushashi]

Racism. We can debate this thing until our ****s fall off.

To Poon and the disgruntled white people of the planet Earth mad that it's not fair that they can't racially insult other ethnicities without getting in trouble, let me first thank you for bringing this injustice to everybody's attention. Because, let's face it, what kind of world would we live in if ignorance isn't allowed to breed more ignorance? God forbid there be a world where a white person is not allowed to make ignorant statements just like everybody else. Especially in the United States of America. (White Jesus is probably shedding a tear at the mere thought... no offense Margarito Jesus.)

If I hear my light-skinned Earth people correctly, what you are basically saying is that it's not FAIR that they get called racist for saying racist things while ********** can say racists things and get away with it. You are saying that you don't own ****** so the fact slavery existed in the past shouldn't affect you. You're telling ********** to stop bitching and complaining and get over the past. You're saying to focus on the now.

If this is correct, then let me say that I hear you. I get it. We're acting like "eternal victims." (Hey Poon, where did you get that from, bro? Oprah?)

It's cool. It'd be great if disgruntled white U.S. citizens would realize that since this country of ours is predominantly white and primarily caters to white interest (economics, law enforcement, media, entertainment), it can be a bit tougher on us ********** sometimes, but, hey, it's time to overlook that stuff and not complain.

I'd also like for the mad white folks to feel first hand what it's like to be racially profiled or harassed by the cops when you're not doing anything wrong, but that's more of that victim talk.

And I sort of wish I would use the rest of this post to tell the fed-up white patriots who hate people who live here and only speak Spanish to not be ashamed to learn another language with European roots, in other words, a "white people's language." Or to tell them that I know they're angry at "illegal aliens" coming here and stealing jobs and not paying taxes, but since they are advocating that we all forget past injustices, then they can be mad right now, but they and their future generations are gonna have to get over it.

Racism. Not only can it cause your **** to fall off, but it can make you say and write things that get other people mad.

NOTE: 10 MINUTES LATER...

(I just spent some time trying to decide whether or not to post what I just wrote above. I've decided, against better judgment, to do so. But, I also want to add a few more thoughts...)

Look, I'm not trying to piss people off on purpose. This **** is just a never-ending cycle. You would hope that debates would be for people to consider different views and opinions, but all that seems to happen is people stating their agendas and trying to wins arguments.

The **** just goes on. "Cops shoot, beat and kill **********." "Well, most criminals are **********." "Well, that's because they're poor and un-educated." "Well, that's their own fault." "No, it's because of the racist institutions of America." "I don't own ******." "But you profit from it in indirect ways." "No, I don't. ********** have discriminated against me." "Well, they've lynched Black people within the last decade in this country." "Well, there was a Black sniper killing people." "Well, a white person committed a ********* act on American soil." "But there's a Black President now." Blah blah blah. On and on.

Honestly, when I was young, I was "angry" at "the establishment." I'm getting old now. I've met and known a lot of people. I get annoyed by ignorant people, but I only really dislike the couple of people who have ****ed with me or my family in real life. And to be dead honest, I can't really think of one person right now that I truly hate. I'm just trying to pay my ****ing bills, have fun and get laid. All that other **** is just a distraction.

I'm really sorry white people. But if you complain this much for having to be PC (and plenty of white people continue to say whatever the **** they want), then I can only imagine if the black and white roles were reversed in this country's history what you would all be saying now. If you're mad because you can't show off "white pride" without being called a racist, maybe you should talk to the neo-****s, the minority that make it bad for the majority. I don't think the majority of ********** would have a problem with white people celebrating their culture. It's just when people start talking about being "superior" and everybody else is "inferior" that it makes people nervous and uncomfortable and mad.

But really what the **** is still the fascination with the same old racism? How ****ing boring is it to talk about how white people can't dance, Mexicans cross the border and mow lawns, ***s control the media, Asians are smart but can't drive, people from the Middle East are *********s, Libido Sanchez has the biggest **** in the world and your mom and girl love it... it's like the same ****** unfunny **** over and over again.

Since I'm spilling my guts, then I'm gonna admit that a white man calling a black man a "black boy" conjures up images of whippings, lynchings, beatdowns, water hoses, discrimination. A black man calling a white man "white boy" makes me think of Woody Harrelson playing basketball.

If you don't like Hopkins saying and doing what he does, then you shouldn't have watched him fight Calzaghe, Trinidad and Wright. You should have boycotted him, if it means that much to you. But I'm guessing most of the people who are complaining went ahead and watched him fight. You hate double standards but you also want to have your cake and eat it too.

Not everybody thinks the same way and everybody has their own experiences. We should respect other people and forget about who's more "superior." But we don't. Maybe we can't? It's built inside of us, handed down from generation to generation, maybe?

Certain behavior in people never seems to change. There's racist pricks of every color and background. Centuries can go by and people can still have the same negative views. People should judge individuals as individuals, but the world is segregated in a lot of ways, so the action of a few is used to judge the masses, because the majority of people allow fear to dictate their lives. I know it's tough, people, but let's try not to be idiots.

Anyways, I've ranted and alienated enough people for one sleepless night.

Great post, man