in reality haye couldve avoided this whole situation by fighting a few more times at hw ko'ing bums like maskaev, sam peter, and the like.....lets be honest more people know who hasim rockman is then him......but wlad is still a *****!!!
in reality haye couldve avoided this whole situation by fighting a few more times at hw ko'ing bums like maskaev, sam peter, and the like.....lets be honest more people know who hasim rockman is then him......but wlad is still a *****!!!
Who cares he had balls and went straight for the top dog AND he didn't do it for money.
i can just see it now..me screaming at the TV " cmon haye!!...cmon haye!!..you got him!!" haha..i swear if haye KOs wlad i will have a seizure and start screaming. dead serious
It certainly looks that way, a bit of an underdog story.
LMAO
Not quite.
This thread is hilarious.
You guys realize Wlad is under zero obligation to fight Haye, right? This is a voluntary defence. Completely voluntary.
So they negotiated it to get the lion's share of the revenues. So they put rematch clauses into the contract. So what?
2 brothers holding 3 out of 4 heavyweight titles and ruling the division together as a franchise is an extraordinary circumstance, so why expect completely normal terms at the negotiating table? Especially when you're negotiating without any negotiating power because you've done nothing comparable?
Haye signed, so it proves his selfless intent to "be a champion" and save the division?
Haye signed, because...where else is he gonna go?
It's this, or retirement. You think his heart is in a protracted heavyweight campaign, chopping down contenders and earning his shot with his fists and not his gob? If he truly was a throwback, that's what he'd be doing.
Back in reality, some of you pull your peckers more times in 1 day than Haye has boxed heavyweight rounds. He's a virtual nobody in the division.
Names like Chambers, Maskaev, Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Ruiz, Chagaev, aren't glamor names to Haye. Booth and Haye both already said it - the Klitschkos are where it's at. They have everything Haye wants. It's a smash and grab they've been plotting from the off.
He said he'd swallow whatever pill he had to swallow to get this fight. His entire charm offensive on fans disillusioned by the state of the heavyweights has been predicated on that promise. So now you're surprised when someone holds him to it?
Also, did none of you ever think that the Klitschkos see Haye as a punk who hasn't earned a shot at Wladimir? That maybe they don't respect him? That they think there are other more deserving contenders he's jumping ahead of? But that they see how the fight could work as a major event and a smart piece of business, so they're acquiescing to what is presently a cult demand (restricted to hardcore boxing fans) to get this **** on? But without giving Haye too much more than they feel he deserves?
I see that as a fair perspective to have, putting myself in their spot. Anyone rational should be able to see it, too, even if they support Haye.
The level of abuse Wlad is copping on this site is straight ****ty. Once was a time I would've been pulling for Haye in this fight, as a fan, not because I believed he was the future of heavyweight, or the division's saviour, but to bring an EXPLOSION to it.
But the crap being parrotted around here lately is enough to make a person want Wlad to body Haye just to see some of you shut up and exposed as the bandwagoning hussies you are.
Why don't some of you hysterical queens, y'know, get some perspective?
It's not "disgusting". It's not "cowardly". It's business.
And this **** is supposed to be FUN. You get to enjoy an exciting event that shouldn't even be happening. Haye gets a shot he hasn't earned, a chance to back up his words and prove he's the man, AND he still gets his biggest payday.
You could be appreciating it and kicking back, looking forward to 2 months of hilarious trash talk from Haye and a suspenseful night of marquee boxing at the end of it.
Instead, you're all getting disingenuously moral and incensed over a contract. Morals have no business whatsoever in business. And boxing is business. Fans should be in the business of having fun, which is what few of you seem to be getting out of this. Vitriol and hate for its own sake seems to be the order.
I "like" Haye, I get a buzz out of watching him fight, he's an insightful guy to listen to talk about boxing when he's out of hype mode.
But he's also clearly a Big Time Charlie who wants the quickest possible route to Gold and Glory.
There isn't anything wrong with that. I support it. It's some needed escapism from the frustrating reality of the heavyweight class. What's misguided is people sucking his **** for it, professing "nuff respeck" and fawning over what a selfless, heroic bringer of heavyweight redemption he is, while blithering about how disgusting and cowardly the Klitschkos --- whose achievements and tally of hard rounds boxed dwarf Haye's --- are.
Would that David Haye's campaign really was some righteous uprising. And boxing really was the intergalactic duel between forces of Good and Evil some of you imagine, as opposed to a money-driven entertainment form. Haye wouldn't be getting to the Dark Overlords without going through their footsoldiers first.
So get real.
Take your knickers off, throw them at the wall, watch them stick. That's how heavy some of you fuckers' menstrual cycles are coming on over this ****.
You guys realize Wlad is under zero obligation to fight Haye, right? This is a voluntary defence. Completely voluntary.
So they negotiated it to get the lion's share of the revenues. So they put rematch clauses into the contract. So what?
2 brothers holding 3 out of 4 heavyweight titles and ruling the division together as a franchise is an extraordinary circumstance, so why expect completely normal terms at the negotiating table? Especially when you're negotiating without any negotiating power because you've done nothing comparable?
Haye signed, so it proves his selfless intent to "be a champion" and save the division?
Haye signed, because...where else is he gonna go?
It's this, or retirement. You think his heart is in a protracted heavyweight campaign, chopping down contenders and earning his shot with his fists and not his gob? If he truly was a throwback, that's what he'd be doing.
Back in reality, some of you pull your peckers more times in 1 day than Haye has boxed heavyweight rounds. He's a virtual nobody in the division.
Names like Chambers, Maskaev, Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Ruiz, Chagaev, aren't glamor names to Haye. Booth and Haye both already said it - the Klitschkos are where it's at. They have everything Haye wants. It's a smash and grab they've been plotting from the off.
He said he'd swallow whatever pill he had to swallow to get this fight. His entire charm offensive on fans disillusioned by the state of the heavyweights has been predicated on that promise. So now you're surprised when someone holds him to it?
Also, did none of you ever think that the Klitschkos see Haye as a punk who hasn't earned a shot at Wladimir? That maybe they don't respect him? That they think there are other more deserving contenders he's jumping ahead of? But that they see how the fight could work as a major event and a smart piece of business, so they're acquiescing to what is presently a cult demand (restricted to hardcore boxing fans) to get this **** on? But without giving Haye too much more than they feel he deserves?
I see that as a fair perspective to have, putting myself in their spot. Anyone rational should be able to see it, too, even if they support Haye.
The level of abuse Wlad is copping on this site is straight ****ty. Once was a time I would've been pulling for Haye in this fight, as a fan, not because I believed he was the future of heavyweight, or the division's saviour, but to bring an EXPLOSION to it.
But the crap being parrotted around here lately is enough to make a person want Wlad to body Haye just to see some of you shut up and exposed as the bandwagoning hussies you are.
Why don't some of you hysterical queens, y'know, get some perspective?
It's not "disgusting". It's not "cowardly". It's business.
And this **** is supposed to be FUN. You get to enjoy an exciting event that shouldn't even be happening. Haye gets a shot he hasn't earned, a chance to back up his words and prove he's the man, AND he still gets his biggest payday.
You could be appreciating it and kicking back, looking forward to 2 months of hilarious trash talk from Haye and a suspenseful night of marquee boxing at the end of it.
Instead, you're all getting disingenuously moral and incensed over a contract. Morals have no business whatsoever in business. And boxing is business. Fans should be in the business of having fun, which is what few of you seem to be getting out of this. Vitriol and hate for its own sake seems to be the order.
I "like" Haye, I get a buzz out of watching him fight, he's an insightful guy to listen to talk about boxing when he's out of hype mode.
But he's also clearly a Big Time Charlie who wants the quickest possible route to Gold and Glory.
There isn't anything wrong with that. I support it. It's some needed escapism from the frustrating reality of the heavyweight class. What's misguided is people sucking his **** for it, professing "nuff respeck" and fawning over what a selfless, heroic bringer of heavyweight redemption he is, while blithering about how disgusting and cowardly the Klitschkos --- whose achievements and tally of hard rounds boxed dwarf Haye's --- are.
Would that David Haye's campaign really was some righteous uprising. And boxing really was the intergalactic duel between forces of Good and Evil some of you imagine, as opposed to a money-driven entertainment form. Haye wouldn't be getting to the Dark Overlords without going through their footsoldiers first.
So get real.
Take your knickers off, throw them at the wall, watch them stick. That's how heavy some of you fuckers' menstrual cycles are coming on over this ****.
Fuckin' girls.
Your 'girl' must love all this **** you type and reward you with some ***** for defending the Klits.
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