Ali speaking about fighting Marciano - ''Marciano would be the most trouble''

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  • street bully
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    #41
    Originally posted by Chase8400
    Maybe, but maybe not.

    It's speculation.

    I think Vitali Klitschko would have beaten them both off of sheer size and activity.

    They were simply too small to compete IMO.

    But, that's just my opinion and speculation.

    It goes both ways.
    Ah man. Lmao. I'm done!

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    • Bhopreign
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      #42
      One sided beating, only way this is remotely competitive is if it's Ali when he is near retirement. Youre not gonna beat Ali without a jab and throwing lead hooks wont get it especially against a prime Ali.
      Last edited by Bhopreign; 04-02-2009, 11:13 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Grand Champ
        According to Ali.. Marciano would be a greater threat to him than Joe Louis among other ATG.. Saying Marciano is a dangerous opponent, even for him, because he is a ''has no style'' kind of brawler and can take a hell of a beating.


        How do you think Marciano would stand up to Ali in a 15 round fight prime for prime? Personly, the only real outcome I see is Ali dancing around him for 15 rounds making Marciano look like a fool...
        He is basically saying he would beat him just that Rocky can take more punishment, kinda like Robinson vs. Lamotta in the St. Valentines Day Massacre.

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        • Bhopreign
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          #44
          Originally posted by TEDetc
          He never took them shots FLUSH IIRC, remember the rope-a-dope etc?

          Oh and most were to the body, Ali was extremely tough and had a great chin I agree but that was a bad example unless you're talking about Alis mental strength in taking ******ly hard body shots.
          Archie Moore dropped Marciano by barely touching him.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Chase8400
            I would have to dissagree. Ali was getting hit, and hard in the second half but those are the same shots Marciano was taking all along. It just seemed more dramatic that a fighter who was known for his defense and foot movement was getting caught I think.
            Marciano was deceptive. He looked crude and wild at times but he didn't take too many big punches.

            Look at Marciano against Joe Louis for example:



            Marciano vs LaStarza:



            Nah i knew he want down during the Walcott fight but I was thinking that he was knocked down by Tiger Ted, which he wasn't.
            I believe he was stunned a couple of times but not knocked down.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              Archie Moore dropped Marciano by barely touching him.
              That punch landed flush. Moore knocked out Bobo Olson, Harold Johnson, Embrell Davidson with similar blows. Marciano got right back up.

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                #47
                Marciano is too small. Dude was 180-190, seriously...you could possibly match Marciano in with RJJ but on real, Ali by K.O. He is just much bigger and he'll keep a distance, this would be like Gatti vs Mayweather

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by TheManchine
                  That punch landed flush.



                  Skip to .18 sec. He barely touched Marciano, apparently he hit the button but still barely touched him.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    Skip to .18 sec. He barely touched Marciano, apparently he hit the button but still barely touched him.

                    3:00

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by El Dominicano
                      Marciano is too small. Dude was 180-190, seriously...you could possibly match Marciano in with RJJ but on real, Ali by K.O. He is just much bigger and he'll keep a distance, this would be like Gatti vs Mayweather
                      My thoughts exactly.

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