Joe Calzaghe. Controversial

[MickyHatton]

This is where it gets messy.

This is one of my major problems with calzaghe.

If you listen to what he says, you find out he makes an extraordinary amount of excuses concerning who he should and shouldnt fight. This is one of the main reason people dont like him, because he comes across as someone who is purley interested in making sure he has a '0' on his record.

He Cant fight Chad dawson, because Chad doesn't draw, but he can fight Manfredo, so is Manfredo a draw now?

He cant fight Carl Froch because there's no money in it, then apparently he was offered millions, then its he cant fight froch because he just wants a payday. Then its Carl hasnt fought anyone, but who the hell did Kessler fight....Beyer? (shot)

He cant rematch Hopkins because he doesnt do rematches, but he gave Mario Viet 2 shots.

He said he wouldnt fight roy jones because Jones is old and that fight proves nothing, next min he fights jones, then when he beats jones he says jones is legend and he has nothing more to prove.

This is part of the problem

Great points. Calzaghe was a great fighter I feel but he deserves the legacy he has left behind in that there will always be doubts as to his true standing in this sport.

[S A M U R A I]

This is where it gets messy.

This is one of my major problems with calzaghe.

If you listen to what he says, you find out he makes an extraordinary amount of excuses concerning who he should and shouldnt fight. This is one of the main reason people dont like him, because he comes across as someone who is purley interested in making sure he has a '0' on his record.

He Cant fight Chad dawson, because Chad doesn't draw, but he can fight Manfredo, so is Manfredo a draw now?

He cant fight Carl Froch because there's no money in it, then apparently he was offered millions, then its he cant fight froch because he just wants a payday. Then its Carl hasnt fought anyone, but who the hell did Kessler fight....Beyer? (shot)

He cant rematch Hopkins because he doesnt do rematches, but he gave Mario Viet 2 shots.

He said he wouldnt fight roy jones because Jones is old and that fight proves nothing, next min he fights jones, then when he beats jones he says jones is legend and he has nothing more to prove.

This is part of the problem

Who knows if they are excuses or just genuine reasons. I see it like this:

Jones: didn't make the fight with Joe, for whatever reasons. Probably because Joe was unknown in the US until just a few years ago, he was a high-risk, low-reward fighter who couldn't offer Jones much. They were also in different weight classes, so there was no obligation to fight. BUT, looking at the press from 9 years ago where Warren was trying to make it happen, it seems Joe was more than happy to go to the states and fight Roy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/wales/921983.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/stor...480559,00.html

Mario Veit was a mandatory. Had he not rematched him, he would have been stripped.

Froch offered Calzaghe nothing. It was only a few months ago when he actually won Calzaghe's old belt. This is not the right kind of fight for a guy closing out his career. Unfortunately for Froch, he came along too late and Calzaghe had bigger fish to fry.

As I mentioned earlier, the Manfredo fight gave Joe a good payday for an easy night's work. It was ******, but I can understand why he took the offer.



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[IMDAZED]

Who knows if they are excuses or just genuine reasons. I see it like this:

Jones: didn't make the fight with Joe, for whatever reasons. Probably because Joe was unknown in the US until just a few years ago, he was a high-risk, low-reward fighter who couldn't offer Jones much. They were also in different weight classes, so there was no obligation to fight. BUT, looking at the press from 9 years ago where Warren was trying to make it happen, it seems Joe was more than happy to go to the states and fight Roy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/wales/921983.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/stor...480559,00.html

Mario Veit was a mandatory. Had he not rematched him, he would have been stripped.

Froch offered Calzaghe nothing. It was only a few months ago when he actually won Calzaghe's old belt. This is not the right kind of fight for a guy closing out his career. Unfortunately for Froch, he came along too late and Calzaghe had bigger fish to fry.

As I mentioned earlier, the Manfredo fight gave Joe a good payday for an easy night's work. It was ******, but I can understand why he took the offer.

Correction Sam, Joe wasn't even considered high-risk then.

[Technical_Skill]

Mario Veit was a mandatory. Had he not rematched him, he would have been stripped.

The he should have ditched the belt and gone for a better fight. He still would have been by many as the best SMW

Example: Chad Dawson gave up his WBC to fight Tarver for the IBF I think.

[S A M U R A I]

Correction Sam, Joe wasn't even considered high-risk then.

If he wasn't considered high-risk that's kinda odd. Any decent fighter who doesn't offer much except a guarantee of a tough fight is always high-risk.

The he should have ditched the belt and gone for a better fight. He still would have been by many as the best SMW

Example: Chad Dawson gave up his WBC to fight Tarver for the IBF I think.

Maybe so.



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