*PeeP* My "Unbiased" theory on Margarito and the Illegal Pads

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  • Texanballer
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    #11
    Isnt it possible his trainer believed in either of those and not Margarito?

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    • ..WaRSpencE..
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      #12
      Originally posted by texanballer
      Isnt it possible his trainer believed in either of those and not Margarito?
      Sure...but Margarito allowed it..one way or another..that's a 30 year old man..he knows what decisions and their consequences are...he can't rely on Capetillo to just take the wrap for him cuz he pretends like he didn't know..

      99% of people in the Boxing community (boxers, analysts, retired boxers, trainers, etc) have all stated that fighters are well aware of what goes on their hands...in 19 years of Margarito's professional career..he knew something was up!..

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      • Pullcounter
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        #13
        Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
        That could go beyond just what Capetillo said...there's actual photographic evidence that can be obviously seen in/after the Cotto fight in particular..

        but I agree..Williams and Clottey both have SOLID chins..but that still doesn't make Cotto any less skilled or less of a man because he took A LOT more shots than both of them..and only he knew how he felt in the ring..if he was done he was done!..he didn't leave any doubt that he isn't a TOUGH dude and put his HEART on the line!..

        feel me?
        there's no evidence, but if one fight is tainted, then all of them are.

        there's no direct link between the blood in either of the photographs... if you turn the photo w/ the pad around, the blood could be from another knuckle.

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        • warp1432
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          #14
          I think the fact that Capetillo said during the Cotto-Marg fight "You're punches should be solid punches by now" is really ****ing suspcious.

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          • ..WaRSpencE..
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            #15
            Originally posted by Executioner54
            Atleast you admit that Cotto's style allowed for Marg to land some bombs.

            Styles do make fights and I think Cotto's style is all wrong for Margo.

            But not many Cottosexuals will admit it. Atleast you did and I respect that.
            Now I'm not saying it's impossible for Cotto to beat Margarito..that's still up in the air..his gameplan was fine..the broken nose and possible plaster of paris obviously wasn't...

            I think he came in solid..and could have did what he was doing in the first half the whole night..but now there's more question than just the fact that Margarito might have broke Cotto's nose and snatched his Will right from under him..

            So I'm inconclusive on how I believe a rematch from scratch..no excuses bout plaster..would actually play out!..

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            • rj_ct
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              #16
              [IMG]http://i91.***********.com/albums/k292/NinjakZ/dead-horse.gif[/IMG]

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              • Pullcounter
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                #17
                Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
                Sure...but Margarito allowed it..one way or another..that's a 30 year old man..he knows what decisions and their consequences are...he can't rely on Capetillo to just take the wrap for him cuz he pretends like he didn't know..

                99% of people in the Boxing community (boxers, analysts, retired boxers, trainers, etc) have all stated that fighters are well aware of what goes on their hands...in 19 years of Margarito's professional career..he knew something was up!..
                it's possible that margo didn't know what was going into his wraps.

                its not impossible that margo is ignorant or careless.


                Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
                I've never takin anything away from Clottey's 12 round decision loss nor Paul Williams' win..but you know the Cotto haters and the ex-PBF/now Williams fans try to hang on that as proof to why Cotto was "exposed" and how he's a "*****, quitter, Quitto, etc"..I feel as that proves nothing!..if he did cheat against them all..than God bless Clottey and Williams for walkin out safe..
                cotto did quit where clottey went 12 and williams won.

                why do boriqua's act like its cowardly? cotto was spent.

                but at the same time...compare the fights..Cotto's loss looked more impressive than both of those fights!..seriously..Styles make fights..and Cotto's style allowed Margarito to return fire!..and Early!..not later on like Clottey's peek-a-boo style or Williams 100+ punches per round!..

                and Cotto felt those shots early..but still had POP!..I don't wanna know if Margarito cheated honestly..I hope he takes that with him to his grave..I would hate to know that my PERSONAL favorite boxer's life was in danger because of extra illegal help in the ring..I love the sport..and that's a terrible thought!...
                in all 3 fights, margo surged late, possibly because the plaster had hardened by then. you are correct though, styles make fights and cotto's style just couldn't cope.

                I'll give props to Williams..but than Williams fans Call Cotto a ***** when he DEMOLISHED Quintana in 5..and Williams needed 2 fights and 13 rounds to do the same!..it's TRIANGLE!..
                its not a triangle because williams destroyed quitnana under 1 round.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  there's no evidence, but if one fight is tainted, then all of them are.

                  there's no direct link between the blood in either of the photographs... if you turn the photo w/ the pad around, the blood could be from another knuckle.
                  put ur left fist against the screen against the evidence pad..and it matches perfectly..I doubt the blood seeped thru on only one side..it had to go thru..get what I'm sayin?..

                  and yea..to me..from when Margarito began claiming to be be the "Most feared Man on Earth" that's when the plaster prolly became his gameplan...

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by warp1432
                    I think the fact that Capetillo said during the Cotto-Marg fight "You're punches should be solid punches by now" is really ****ing suspcious.
                    depends on how you interpret what he's saying

                    Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
                    Now I'm not saying it's impossible for Cotto to beat Margarito..that's still up in the air..his gameplan was fine..the broken nose and possible plaster of paris obviously wasn't...

                    I think he came in solid..and could have did what he was doing in the first half the whole night..but now there's more question than just the fact that Margarito might have broke Cotto's nose and snatched his Will right from under him..

                    So I'm inconclusive on how I believe a rematch from scratch..no excuses bout plaster..would actually play out!..
                    cotto was doing fine until his stamina gave out. the gameplan was fine, but cotto's stamina didn't allow cotto to execute it for 12 rounds.

                    cotto can definitely beat margo w/ a few adjustments for cotto's lack of stamina in the later rounds.

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                    • 12Rounds
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                      #20
                      Its very obvious he cheated vs Cotto. You don't need prove to know everything that its true. I don't think Margo used the plaster against Paul Williams, but in Cotto's fight they were very nervous. One things for sure if people can't confirm he was cheated against they can't confirm he wasn't. Everything says he did. When someone tells the truth they denied everthing in a way you can tell their offended by the allegations. Antonio Margarito doesn't denied it that way. If he were telling the truth he would have said: First of all I didn't cheated and I have never cheated, then he might even go on to square he didn't do it. It doesn't mean its always the truth, but Margo explanation is more like a Bill Clinton explanation, he's just trying to hide the truth. But anti Cotto fans and fans that have other fighters as their favorite want others to believe what they want to believe, even if deep down they don't believe it completely. So haters just lie.

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