*PeeP* My "Unbiased" theory on Margarito and the Illegal Pads

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  • Pullcounter
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    #21
    Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
    put ur left fist against the screen against the evidence pad..and it matches perfectly..I doubt the blood seeped thru on only one side..it had to go thru..get what I'm sayin?..
    doing that doesn't prove anything... you need the actual pad and even then you'd need to match it up w/ margo's knuckles.

    and yea..to me..from when Margarito began claiming to be be the "Most feared Man on Earth" that's when the plaster prolly became his gameplan...
    no one knows for certain, its all speculation

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #22
      Paul Williams is better than Miguel Cotto

      That is what all you Cotto fans are saying then. That would be the case if Margarito used plaster against Cotto. If you say Cotto was cheated then he had to have done it against Williams as well. Williams beat a Plaster-Margarito. Cotto gave up against a Plaster-Margarito. Williams is better than Cotto then. Period.


      If you continue to say Margarito cheated Cotto. Your saying Paul Williams is better than Cotto.

      Otherwise your making a special stipulation for Cotto. Which makes your point of Cotto being cheated completely null & void. Period.

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      • ..WaRSpencE..
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        #23
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        it's possible that margo didn't know what was going into his wraps.

        its not impossible that margo is ignorant or careless.



        cotto did quit where clottey went 12 and williams won.

        why do boriqua's act like its cowardly? cotto was spent.


        in all 3 fights, margo surged late, possibly because the plaster had hardened by then. you are correct though, styles make fights and cotto's style just couldn't cope.


        its not a triangle because williams destroyed quitnana under 1 round.
        Nothings impossible..but bro..this is not the inexperienced Pullcounter & WaRCoTTo we're talking about..this is Margarito..a VET 19 years strong as a PRO!..how could u not KNOW?!..

        And I don't care what Boricuas feel..I'm not Rican..but Evangelista threw the towel in after the 2nd knee..Cotto was done..but his corner Technically called it..

        and It is a Triangle..Cotto beat Quintana the FIRST time..Williams did it the SECOND...Williams beat Margarito the FIRST time..Cotto had the opportunity to beat Margarito the SECOND time..but Margs effed that up..Not Cotto!..

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        • Ch@mpBox@PR
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          #24
          Originally posted by F l i c k e r
          Paul Williams is better than Miguel Cotto

          That is what all you Cotto fans are saying then. That would be the case if Margarito used plaster against Cotto. If you say Cotto was cheated then he had to have done it against Williams as well. Williams beat a Plaster-Margarito. Cotto gave up against a Plaster-Margarito. Williams is better than Cotto then. Period.


          If you continue to say Margarito cheated Cotto. Your saying Paul Williams is better than Cotto.

          Otherwise your making a special stipulation for Cotto. Which makes your point of Cotto being cheated completely null & void. Period.
          He whole Theory on this is that Magarito after the Williams loss, felt he needed a extra boost(Plaster). The Cotto fight was his biggest fight and his last chance at stadome.

          SO he did not cheated against Williams.

          And in no way, Sahpe or form Willaims is a better fighter than Cotto!!!

          Period!!!!!!!!!!!

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          • Pullcounter
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            #25
            Originally posted by 12Rounds
            Its very obvious he cheated vs Cotto.
            its not obvious, but its probable

            You don't need prove to know everything that its true.
            yeah, but there is no proof that margo cheated against cotto, though it is probable

            I don't think Margo used the plaster against Paul Williams, but in Cotto's fight they were very nervous.
            i think they were equally nervous against pwill because pwill handled margo in sparring. plus pwill is a huge dude who margo knows he cannot just overpower.

            One things for sure if people can't confirm he was cheated against they can't confirm he wasn't.
            Everything says he did.
            its probable but not certain beyond all doubt.

            When someone tells the truth they denied everthing in a way you can tell their offended by the allegations. Antonio Margarito doesn't denied it that way. If he were telling the truth he would have said: First of all I didn't cheated and I have never cheated, then he might even go on to square he didn't do it. It doesn't mean its always the truth, but Margo explanation is more like a Bill Clinton explanation, he's just trying to hide the truth.
            not all people are the same or react in the same way. you can't use what I quoted hear against margo.

            But anti Cotto fans and fans that have other fighters as their favorite want others to believe what they want to believe, even if deep down they don't believe it completely. So haters just lie.
            saying that there is no proof that margo cheated against cotto isn't a lie, its fact.

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            • ..WaRSpencE..
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              #26
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              doing that doesn't prove anything... you need the actual pad and even then you'd need to match it up w/ margo's knuckles.


              no one knows for certain, its all speculation
              I'm on the same page as u Pull..it's all speculation and assumption...but at the same time..logic and common sense are a natural human instinct for most atleast..and it's just a lil fishy looking at the situation and circumstances..

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                #27
                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                He whole Theory on this is that Magarito after the Williams loss, felt he needed a extra boost(Plaster). The Cotto fight was his biggest fight and his last chance at stadome.

                SO he did not cheated against Williams.

                And in no way, Sahpe or form Willaims is a better fighter than Cotto!!!

                Period!!!!!!!!!!!
                Then why take into consideration what his trainer said then, hm? He said "I always wrapped them this way" so if he wrapped them that way all the time. Then your saying Plaster was used against Williams. The rest is history..

                You cant make your case if you want to make a special stipulation for Cotto.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Executioner54
                  LOL but the Cottosexuals argument is that Marg loaded his gloves against Cotto because Capetillo stated that he always wraps Margs hands that way.

                  Meaning both Williams and Clottey went 12 rounds with a loaded gloved monster while the Cottosexual's hero quit like a *****.
                  great points, both of them. Like numerous intelligent posters stated on this thread.if there no evidence and we are speculating then we must speculate on all his previous fights after the Santos fight........and if his gloves were loaded against Paul Williams I have only one word to say.........F U C K

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    Paul Williams is better than Miguel Cotto

                    That is what all you Cotto fans are saying then. That would be the case if Margarito used plaster against Cotto. If you say Cotto was cheated then he had to have done it against Williams as well. Williams beat a Plaster-Margarito. Cotto gave up against a Plaster-Margarito. Williams is better than Cotto then. Period.


                    If you continue to say Margarito cheated Cotto. Your saying Paul Williams is better than Cotto.

                    Otherwise your making a special stipulation for Cotto. Which makes your point of Cotto being cheated completely null & void. Period.
                    exactly! you can't have your cake and eat it too

                    Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
                    Nothings impossible..but bro..this is not the inexperienced Pullcounter & WaRCoTTo we're talking about..this is Margarito..a VET 19 years strong as a PRO!..how could u not KNOW?!..
                    after doing something a million times, any sane person tends to not pay attention to certain things.

                    I'm certain the first time capetillo cheated, margo felt the difference, but maybe margo is just too trusting / gullible when capetillo told him it was a different way of wrapping and not cheating.

                    And I don't care what Boricuas feel..I'm not Rican..but Evangelista threw the towel in after the 2nd knee..Cotto was done..but his corner Technically called it..
                    technically yes, but cotto quit nonetheless

                    and It is a Triangle..Cotto beat Quintana the FIRST time..Williams did it the SECOND...Williams beat Margarito the FIRST time..Cotto had the opportunity to beat Margarito the SECOND time..but Margs effed that up..Not Cotto!..
                    there is no triangle, williams destroyed quitnana under 1 round.

                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                    He whole Theory on this is that Magarito after the Williams loss, felt he needed a extra boost(Plaster). The Cotto fight was his biggest fight and his last chance at stadome.

                    SO he did not cheated against Williams.

                    And in no way, Sahpe or form Willaims is a better fighter than Cotto!!!

                    Period!!!!!!!!!!!
                    its very possible that margo cheated against pwill as well. pwill beat up marg in sparring. plus pwill is huge; why wouldn't he want some kind of advantage on pwill.

                    especially if you count the late round surge for margo, its definitely as probable that margo cheated against pwill as he might have done for cotto.

                    that said, pwill took plaster for 12 rounds and won, whereas cotto took plaster and quit.

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                    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                      #30
                      Why he would of want to cheat against a number one COntender that nobody knew about?

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