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  • sunny31
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    #31
    Originally posted by gopi11
    A conclusion that my common sense tells me, which is safe to say is right. I know boxing is a worldwide sport, but boxing in most parts of the globe, is unquantifiable. There's black boxes in Mexico, illegal cable connections in the Philippines, Justin.tv etc etc. That's why they bet on US PPV buys, which usually provides numbers which they based their bets on...
    UK ppv is I REPEAT not the same as the other markets you mention, it is quantifiable, it is a big market when there is a big fight, sometimes even when there is not a UK fighter fighting, I get the point about the bet but you can't class UK ppv the same as mexico, and asia, it is a huge money maker and this is why this fight is a 50-50 split.

    The fact that you're pound 4 pound #1 only did 850k for the fight with hatton, who is the most popular active american fighter de la hoya aside, and in the UK we did 1.4 million in a country which is 1/30th the size shows how significant I think it is, and that the UK ppv's should probably be taken into account.

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    • boxasmash
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      #32
      not sure about usa

      will do over 1 M in the UK alone though, maybe 800k in us and do they have ppvs in the phillipines?

      around 1.8 sounds about right overall.

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      • QUISQUEYA
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        #33
        Originally posted by GreatJoe
        You didn't use common sense, you jumped to a conclusion, theres a difference.



        Boxing is a WORLDWIDE sport, it's not an American sport as much as you lot seem to think.

        Because Boxing is a WORLDWIDE sport, you have to count WORLDWIDE figures.
        JOE,

        At a certain point, we have to use an accessible number. We (at least QUISQUEYA) are benchmarking off previous figures - which were domestic US PPV's.

        If someone wants to show me the data for DelaHoya-Pac and Pac-Marquez, then I will gladly triangulate a projection based on THOSE figures.

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        • Chase8400
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          #34
          This one will do about 800-950k here in the US and about 1.6-1.8 mil in the UK. All in all, it beats Oscar-Manny overall with about 2.5 mil .

          Allot of people don't realize that the real mainstream hype doesn't start until Hatton/Pacquiao 24/7. As soon as Floyd and Freddie crank it up, the sales will be ******. At that point, It's on foolio's!

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          • QuCongee
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            #35
            50,000,000

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            • QUISQUEYA
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              #36
              Originally posted by sunny31
              UK ppv is I REPEAT not the same as the other markets you mention, it is quantifiable, it is a big market when there is a big fight, sometimes even when there is not a UK fighter fighting, I get the point about the bet but you can't class UK ppv the same as mexico, and asia, it is a huge money maker and this is why this fight is a 50-50 split.

              The fact that you're pound 4 pound #1 only did 850k for the fight with hatton, who is the most popular active american fighter de la hoya aside, and in the UK we did 1.4 million in a country which is 1/30th the size shows how significant I think it is, and that the UK ppv's should probably be taken into account.
              Sunny, you have to take into account price elasticity.

              ..and Hatton is not American.

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              • Zarco
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                #37
                i think itll do 700k, maybe even less. you gotta think, DLH-PAC did 1.5 mill, DLH being the majority draw. you also gotta think, MAY-HATTON did 800k, mayweather being the majority draw. neither pac or hatton are a DLH or a Mayweather.

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                • gopi11
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sunny31
                  UK ppv is I REPEAT not the same as the other markets you mention, it is quantifiable, it is a big market when there is a big fight, sometimes even when there is not a UK fighter fighting, I get the point about the bet but you can't class UK ppv the same as mexico, and asia, it is a huge money maker and this is why this fight is a 50-50 split.

                  The fact that you're pound 4 pound #1 only did 850k for the fight with hatton, who is the most popular active american fighter de la hoya aside, and in the UK we did 1.4 million in a country which is 1/30th the size shows how significant I think it is, and that the UK ppv's should probably be taken into account.


                  I'm not downplaying UK's buying power when it comes to Ricky Hatton's fights, and I know they're reliable enough about their numbers, but the guy insist that boxing is worldwide, and worldwide doesn't mean UK and USA only. I didn't mention England as the same class as those nation/nations that I've previously mentioned, but the guy is not that crazy to bet on under, if the over/under is 750K, if we include the UK buys, he's out of his mind because the UK buys alone might cover that.

                  ... and FWIW, you're barking at the wrong tree, I may be in the US but my P4P ain't that money hungry, scared and semi-retired boxer...
                  Last edited by gopi11; 03-31-2009, 11:17 AM.

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                  • QUISQUEYA
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Zarco
                    i think itll do 700k, maybe even less. you gotta think, DLH-PAC did 1.5 mill, DLH being the majority draw. you also gotta think, MAY-HATTON did 800k, mayweather being the majority draw. neither pac or hatton are a DLH or a Mayweather.
                    What is the VERY BEST that Pac did carrying a card?
                    What is the VERY BEST that Ric did carrying a card?

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                      #40
                      this fight does 900K in the US

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