Who [active] UNDER THE AGE OF 32 has MORE acclompishments than Floyd Mayweather??

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  • BennyST
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    #131
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    haye didn't have the ibf.

    kostya didn't have the wbo.

    winky didn't have the wbo.

    judah also didn't have the wbo.

    calzaghe had all 4 but not all at the same time. think of it , i don't even think lennox had the wbo either. at the time he had all his belts , vitali and before him herbie was wbo champ.

    i guess you can make a case for kostya , winky , judah and lennox because they had the ring/lineal title and the 3 majors wbc , wba and ibf.

    it's all depends on when/if you consider the wbo a major belt. for the longest time the wbo was a meaningless belt used by european promoters for the most part for their fighters.

    hell you can make a case for hamed being undisputed because he beat all the major title holders in his time frame. only strippings and org politics prevented him from being champ of all 4 belts at the same time.
    I believe today that as long as they have the two main belts along with one of the other major belts and the lineal title, they are undisputed. Or if the other belt is vacant or won in a vacant title fight, the main guy is undisputed. That's from memory though so not too sure.

    Tszyu was the undisputed champion though and the only guy to do it at 140 since Pryor.

    A the WBO gets more and more recognition eventually they will have to hold each and every major title to be undisputed champion. We will rarely ever see another true undisputed champion though I think. Too much crap and bureaucratic bollocks going down.

    I think most recently because of the burgeoning importance if the WBO and with the long time reign of great fighters that held it like Calzaghe, Hopkins etc, in the last couple of years they are adding it as one of the undisputed title needed to have that designation.

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    • goblin
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      #132
      Originally posted by Hard2kill
      And the tru bias came out from cave... You should stop watching boxing from now on if you just don'y know how to appreciate the sweet science... let alone your favorite fighters fight each other...
      Why dont u shut the **** up and realize that im one OF MANY that think jmm won both fights..Manny LOST both jackass just accept it and move the **** on.

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      • strugler
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        #133
        Originally posted by goblin
        Why dont u shut the **** up and realize that im one OF MANY that think jmm won both fights..Manny LOSS both jackass just accept it and move the **** on.
        Fixed that for you.

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        • BennyST
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          #134
          Originally posted by strugler
          Fixed that for you.
          Mate, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. What were you trying to say there?

          Anyway, this thread died along with Horus trying to own or clown people about things he doesn't even know about and this becoming just another Manny vs Pac thread. There's enough of them already. Let's at least wait until May 2nd to see so many of them.

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          • strugler
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            #135
            Originally posted by BennyST
            Mate, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. What were you trying to say there?

            Anyway, this thread died along with Horus trying to own or clown people about things he doesn't even know about and this becoming just another Manny vs Pac thread. There's enough of them already. Let's at least wait until May 2nd to see so many of them.
            What? me and goblin are cool as far i know atleast. LOL.
            I never mentioned about owning anyone....as far as i can remember.
            This has nothing to do with Pac-Hatton rather the first 2 JMM -Pac fight so i dont see your point.

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            • BennyST
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              #136
              Originally posted by strugler
              What? me and goblin are cool as far i know atleast. LOL.
              I never mentioned about owning anyone....as far as i can remember.
              This has nothing to do with Pac-Hatton rather the first 2 JMM -Pac fight so i dont see your point.


              No man, I wasn't having a dig at you. I was just curious as to what the LOSS bit in bold that you changed meant? I couldn't figure it out. The last part was not really related to you. That's all, nothing serious.

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              • KILLA RIGHT
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                #137
                Jesus manny beats diaz and all of a sudden he gets put up in this plateu of another division championship

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                • fcastro1
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by King Burner II
                  First off MAB and Morales arent ATG's.

                  Larios isnt going to the hall.

                  Pac has fought 5 hall of famers.....MAB, Erik, JMM, Oscar, and Hatton.

                  Floyd has fought 5 H.O.F............Oscar, Hatton, Castillo, Corralles, Hernandez.

                  Please dont over blow Pacs resume..its lackluster to say the least....

                  He arguably lost BOTH fights to JMM.............lost to Morales....and beat a shot version....


                  Please give me a break..hate Floyd all you want but Pacs resume is not better......

                  And there is nothing in the ring that Pac does better then Floyd.....and one on one if they ever fight Pac gets stopped within 6..its not even a fair fight.
                  you floyd fans are jokers. pac gets the respect because he went for the big fights and the challenges. floyd never did, and now you are trying defend floyds resume by saying that it is better than pacs. get a grip, we all know floyd has the potential but never took risks thats why pac sh### on his resume.

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by BennyST
                    I believe today that as long as they have the two main belts along with one of the other major belts and the lineal title, they are undisputed. Or if the other belt is vacant or won in a vacant title fight, the main guy is undisputed. That's from memory though so not too sure.

                    Tszyu was the undisputed champion though and the only guy to do it at 140 since Pryor.

                    A the WBO gets more and more recognition eventually they will have to hold each and every major title to be undisputed champion. We will rarely ever see another true undisputed champion though I think. Too much crap and bureaucratic bollocks going down.

                    I think most recently because of the burgeoning importance if the WBO and with the long time reign of great fighters that held it like Calzaghe, Hopkins etc, in the last couple of years they are adding it as one of the undisputed title needed to have that designation.

                    to me undisputed is all the majors (wbc , wba and ibf a few years back and all 3 plus the wbo now AND the ring/lineal) hard. too hard to do.

                    funny how hopkins was the only one to do it when he's not really a big draw. he has tito (don's middleweight tourney) and oscar (oscar's "WIN" over sturm for the wbo) to thank for that.



                    see i don't mind counting the wbo but don't really know when.

                    i mean yeah it matters now but when did it start?

                    guys like hamed , barrera , the klitschkos and calzaghe really helped the wbo come to prominence.

                    i remember when the wbo had herbie hide as heavyweight champ during holyfield/bowe/lewis/tyson/moorer era. lol

                    and eamonn loughran as welterweight champ during the time whitaker/trinidad/quartey all had 147 belts.

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                    • MaD RoBoT
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by goblin
                      Why dont u shut the **** up and realize that im one OF MANY that think jmm LOST both fights..Manny WON both jackass just accept it and move the **** on.
                      return to sender

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