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  • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    margo only deserves an opportunity to box again in the US if its proved that he didn't know what was going into his handwraps
    yeah i hear that but at the same time how do you PROVE that? I mean his trainer is taking FULL responsibility of the wraps he put on tony's hands.

    However everyone is saying that he had to know(TM)..

    so does he have to mysteriously provide a tape of the wraps showing that he had his eyes closed or was distracted while his trainer was putting the tainted wraps along his hands?

    My opinion is this.. TM better sit out the rest of 2009, go on a public tour to get his point across that he had nothing to do with what the commision found inside his wraps. Hopefully his ex trainer will continue to take full responsibility. Thus by next february, he can get his license back and have a shot proving that the wraps didn't make him...

    as far as the legal action that cotto is threatning to do, it won't go far. They're is no evidence and the fact that he quit from the pressure, hangs more than what tony may or may not have had in his gloves. Cotto spent himself on his bike that night

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    • Originally posted by RL_GMA View Post
      He doesn't deserve the opportunity.

      He's claiming he didn't know anything, but its pretty obvious that he did. Considering someone had to literally place those blocks in the cushion itself before wrapping it, he'd have to be a complete idiot not to notice that.
      what if he is a complete idiot though? that'd mean its not obvious that he did know something was up.

      Plus, he hasn't even apologized or commented thoroughly about anything having to due with his suspension.
      well, either margo is lying or he didn't know, that's why he hasn't apologized.

      I'd find it hilarious if Capetillo eventually comes out and spills the beans being Margarito himself is trying to seperate himself from Capetillo after everything that's gone down.
      that's not hilarious, that's what we need to happen to find out if margo knew or not.

      I think there's going to be more surfacing now that the official news of his wraps have been released.
      I hope so

      He's done as a fighter as far as I can see.
      probably, but not certainly

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      • Originally posted by thiefery View Post
        yeah i hear that but at the same time how do you PROVE that? I mean his trainer is taking FULL responsibility of the wraps he put on tony's hands.
        only way is if they get a polygraph test on margo or if someone on team margarito gives a credible testimony that margo knew.

        However everyone is saying that he had to know(TM)..
        yeah, but only margo knows for sure... we aren't mind readers.

        so does he have to mysteriously provide a tape of the wraps showing that he had his eyes closed or was distracted while his trainer was putting the tainted wraps along his hands?
        nope, its up to his accusers to come up with evidence.

        My opinion is this.. TM better sit out the rest of 2009, go on a public tour to get his point across that he had nothing to do with what the commision found inside his wraps. Hopefully his ex trainer will continue to take full responsibility. Thus by next february, he can get his license back and have a shot proving that the wraps didn't make him...
        I think margo's best chances is for arum to pull some strings and bribe some people. a public relations tour won't do anything.

        as far as the legal action that cotto is threatning to do, it won't go far. They're is no evidence and the fact that he quit from the pressure, hangs more than what tony may or may not have had in his gloves. Cotto spent himself on his bike that night
        I agree, but cotto's lawyers can try and get the blood on the pad tested and get margo or his team to take polygraph tests to change the loss to a NC. imho cotto is just making a big deal out of this so that they have a reason to leave arum.

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        • The nerve of Margarito.

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          • Originally posted by RL_GMA View Post
            He doesn't deserve the opportunity.

            He's claiming he didn't know anything, but its pretty obvious that he did. Considering someone had to literally place those blocks in the cushion itself before wrapping it, he'd have to be a complete idiot not to notice that.

            Plus, he hasn't even apologized or commented thoroughly about anything having to due with his suspension. I'd find it hilarious if Capetillo eventually comes out and spills the beans being Margarito himself is trying to seperate himself from Capetillo after everything that's gone down.

            I think there's going to be more surfacing now that the official news of his wraps have been released. He's done as a fighter as far as I can see.
            That could have been the first time using plasters, but again, we will never now until he fight again.. What could boxing have to lose, i mean, if he wins and prove that it was really his power what koed cotto, he is good to continue.. if his punches seem to be week, then will know he used plasters before.. until then, who knows

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            • Originally posted by MexicanBoxing1 View Post
              That could have been the first time using plasters, but again, we will never now until he fight again.. What could boxing have to lose, i mean, if he wins and prove that it was really his power what koed cotto, he is good to continue.. if his punches seem to be week, then will know he used plasters before.. until then, who knows
              This is not a matter of him proving ****.

              The point is that he tried to cheat, and he didnt the worst way possible. he doesnt deserve the opportunity to step in the ring again. he could of kill somebody dude. Stop with the ninsense, and see the situation for what it is.

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              • In the overall scheme of things, you have to put into consideration on how a fight is made. A lot of people hating on Cotto or who are die hard Marg fans are completely oblivious to the bigger picture.

                Fact: Cotto vs Margarito II was already set in motion. Both camps agreed to the rematch and a date and venue was also already set.

                Fact: Margarito and Capetillo were banned for a year for finding (now confirmed) Plaster in Margarito's cushioning. Margarito cannot fight in the US.

                Now that the smoke has settled for the most part, Margarito thinks he'll gain some steam by calling out either Cotto or Mosley for a July fight. But the reality is that it won't happen. Both Cotto and Mosley are stars of the sport. It would make no sense at all for either guy to waste their time with Margarito being none of the US networks would want to carry the fight based on Margarito's publicity and there's no money at all for either guy. It just makes no sense.

                Margarito more than anything should be worrying about how he can re-establish his rep which at this point seems to be an almost impossible task.

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                • Originally posted by thiefery View Post
                  yeah i hear that but at the same time how do you PROVE that? I mean his trainer is taking FULL responsibility of the wraps he put on tony's hands.

                  However everyone is saying that he had to know(TM)..

                  so does he have to mysteriously provide a tape of the wraps showing that he had his eyes closed or was distracted while his trainer was putting the tainted wraps along his hands?

                  My opinion is this.. TM better sit out the rest of 2009, go on a public tour to get his point across that he had nothing to do with what the commision found inside his wraps. Hopefully his ex trainer will continue to take full responsibility. Thus by next february, he can get his license back and have a shot proving that the wraps didn't make him...

                  as far as the legal action that cotto is threatning to do, it won't go far. They're is no evidence and the fact that he quit from the pressure, hangs more than what tony may or may not have had in his gloves. Cotto spent himself on his bike that night

                  I can see you're defending Marg and thats fine. I wont get on you cuz of it. But a serious question here....

                  Would you be willing to have a fight a boxer with loaded-gloves who also had a granite-chin to see how you would fair?

                  As far as legal action goes i wont pretend to know what recourse Cotto could take. However it speaks volumes when the Deputy-attorney-general at the initial hearing saw it fit to show pictures of Marg's wraps after the Cotto fight and the ones before the Mosley fight to show they were indentical.

                  I reserved my judgement on the whole thing untill the final results were out. And now that theres proof i wont have my intelligence insulted any longer by the thought if this being his first time doing this or that he was totally unaware..I respect your opinion though.

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                  • Originally posted by niceguy45 View Post
                    i do think margto deserves a chance to prove himself
                    your alone on that one. Margarito doesnt even deserve to fight anymore.

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                    • Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN View Post
                      See, there were reports during the first hearing which was weeks after the fight, that the pads "were firm, but flexible." Now they're calling them blocks? lol With inconsistant reporting like that, it definitely doesn't help Marg's case. Cause I really doubt Cappetillo and Marg were ****** enough to but solid bricks in their wrappings.

                      Anyways, Marg is dreaming if he thinks he can get a rematch with Cotto. Cotto sounds shook as hell, he's not soundin like a guy that wants some get-back. As for a Mosley rematch, lol Tony's gonna have to learn to move his head if a second fight like that takes place. You can't just stand straight up eating Mosley's hooks. The only punch Mosley has left are his hooks, lol and Marg has been the only fighter in the past 2 years to stand straight up enough for Mosley to land em at full effect.
                      Cotto is scared of noone. If you care at all of Margacheatos life then you wouldnt even mention a mosley rematch. Mosley would destroy every remaining brain cell in his head.

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