The HeavyWeight Myth..

[Welter_Skelter]

Man The Heavyweight Division is at an all time low..

Bunch of fat Nobodies with no talent..

Now in the 70's.. that where the Real golden Era was right??

I mean you had guys Like Chuck Wepner in the top 10 for over 3 years..

Wepner is most famous for Knocking down Ali with one of the 7 punches he landed over 15 rounds.. (I am not kidding BTW.. he landed about 7 punches over 15 rounds)
Chuck Wepner was 30-9-2 when he fought Ali and he had a Top 10 ranking.. he landed 7 punches in a championship fight..

When he fought Ali.. he had already been KO'd by Sonny Liston, George Foreman,Joe Bunger and to an 11-1-1 Jerry Judge..

This Man was TOP 10 ranked for years...

I present to you the top 10 Ring magazine rankings for 1973

1973
Champ- George Foreman
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Frazier
3. Ken Norton
4. Jerry Quarry
5. Ron Lyle
6. Earnie Shavers
7. Oscar Bonavena
8. Joe Bugner
9. Jimmy Ellis
10.Chuck Wepner

The top 5 certainly looks impressive enough
Who are these ATG from 6-10???


How about 1976??

1976
Champ- Muhammad Ali
1. George Foreman
2. Ken Norton
3. Jimmy Young
4. Duane Bobick
5. Ron Lyle
6. Larry Holmes
7. Howard Smith
8. Johnny Boudreaux
9. Stan Ward
10.Joe Bugner

WOW !! Again look at those names???

The same guys in the top 5 despite All of them having losses and even KO losses Again the 6-10 positions are filled with nobodies

Now Tell me A Klitschko couldn't compete.. Tell me Lamon Brewster couldn't compete..

Save for the same 3-5 guys ruling the division for half the decade.. The Talent level REALLY drops...

Sound Familiar???

here is a link for Y'all if you want to see what ATG's the 70's produced..

http://www.geocities.com/sadmspats/hello.htm

The 80's were worse.. the 90's was actually the golden era.. and YET it was not much better after the top 3-5 guys are removed from the picture..

Today it's Business as usual... 3-5 guys who are head and shoulders above the rest and a Bunch of stiffs with varying degrees of talent..

Some things to consider..
During the 70's and even the 80's Boxing was a mainstream sport on page one of the newspaper and free on national TV..
The stars of this ERA have transcended Boxing due it's immense coverage..
They were truly household names.. and It inflates their legend .. extremely..

Americans hate ANYONE being better at something than they are.. (not individually necessarily, but as a national psyche) and will abandon such things en mass .. Check the Olympic TV ratings of ANY sport if no American is involved..

I hope this helps put a few things in perspective .. especially some of you fans who are newer to the sport and seem to go on hearsay instead of just doing a little homework..

The past is always made to look bigger by those who lived it.. they are not crying for a lost sport.. but for their own lost youth..


Thank you for listening

[them_apples]

Man The Heavyweight Division is at an all time low..

Bunch of fat Nobodies with no talent..

Now in the 70's.. that where the Real golden Era was right??

I mean you had guys Like Chuck Wepner in the top 10 for over 3 years..

Wepner is most famous for Knocking down Ali with one of the 7 punches he landed over 15 rounds.. (I am not kidding BTW.. he landed about 7 punches over 15 rounds)
Chuck Wepner was 30-9-2 when he fought Ali and he had a Top 10 ranking.. he landed 7 punches in a championship fight..

When he fought Ali.. he had already been KO'd by Sonny Liston, George Foreman,Joe Bunger and to an 11-1-1 Jerry Judge..

This Man was TOP 10 ranked for years...

I present to you the top 10 Ring magazine rankings for 1973

1973
Champ- George Foreman
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Frazier
3. Ken Norton
4. Jerry Quarry
5. Ron Lyle
6. Earnie Shavers
7. Oscar Bonavena
8. Joe Bugner
9. Jimmy Ellis
10.Chuck Wepner

The top 5 certainly looks impressive enough
Who are these ATG from 6-10???


How about 1976??

1976
Champ- Muhammad Ali
1. George Foreman
2. Ken Norton
3. Jimmy Young
4. Duane Bobick
5. Ron Lyle
6. Larry Holmes
7. Howard Smith
8. Johnny Boudreaux
9. Stan Ward
10.Joe Bugner

WOW !! Again look at those names???

The same guys in the top 5 despite All of them having losses and even KO losses Again the 6-10 positions are filled with nobodies

Now Tell me A Klitschko couldn't compete.. Tell me Lamon Brewster couldn't compete..

Save for the same 3-5 guys ruling the division for half the decade.. The Talent level REALLY drops...

Sound Familiar???

here is a link for Y'all if you want to see what ATG's the 70's produced..

http://www.geocities.com/sadmspats/hello.htm

The 80's were worse.. the 90's was actually the golden era.. and YET it was not much better after the top 3-5 guys are removed from the picture..

Today it's Business as usual... 3-5 guys who are head and shoulders above the rest and a Bunch of stiffs with varying degrees of talent..

Some things to consider..
During the 70's and even the 80's Boxing was a mainstream sport on page one of the newspaper and free on national TV..
The stars of this ERA have transcended Boxing due it's immense coverage..
They were truly household names.. and It inflates their legend .. extremely..

Americans hate ANYONE being better at something than they are.. (not individually necessarily, but as a national psyche) and will abandon such things en mass .. Check the Olympic TV ratings of ANY sport if no American is involved..

I hope this helps put a few things in perspective .. especially some of you fans who are newer to the sport and seem to go on hearsay instead of just doing a little homework..

The past is always made to look bigger by those who lived it.. they are not crying for a lost sport.. but for their own lost youth..


Thank you for listening

do we even have a credible top 5? i mean there is Vitali..a man who lost to an aging Lewis..

After that, I can't think of anybody. Haye is just a chin waiting to be knocked out.

[Naps]

This thread stinks. The Klits are awful robots who have NOBODY on their resume's.

Stick to ***ing 8 year old boys Welter, it suits you better.

[- JCHING -]

There is some substance to what you're saying, I can see your point. But the truth is, the fighters of the 70's and 90's were waaaayyyy more exciting to watch, in and out the ring, than all of the heavyweight division in the present day..

[Welter_Skelter]

do we even have a credible top 5? i mean there is Vitali..a man who lost to an aging Lewis..

After that, I can't think of anybody. Haye is just a chin waiting to be knocked out.

A few of those perennial top 10 70's guys were known for packing glass themselves.. what's your point??

[Welter_Skelter]

This thread stinks. The Klits are awful robots who have NOBODY on their resume's.

Stick to ***ing 8 year old boys Welter, it suits you better.

Awesome retort.. I bow to you..

[MoneyMayFan]

Some people say cucumbers taste better than pickles

[Welter_Skelter]

There is some substance to what you're saying, I can see your point. But the truth is, the fighters of the 70's and 90's were waaaayyyy more exciting to watch, in and out the ring, than all of the heavyweight division in the present day..

Seems to me I remember lots of boring fights over the years in every division.. and very few EXCITING heavyweight fights.. (if being compared to Vasquez Marquez..) in any Era.. every year produces a couple.. and the rest are boring.. that's heavyweight boxing..

I am just not sure why people like to ***** about it.. Simply don't watch it.. it's funny how they still watch something they can't stand so much.. it belies logic..

[Dan...]

The fact remains that behind the Klitschkos I see virtually no class in the HW division right now. It speaks volumes that the #3 guy that everyone is talking about is a former Cruiser champ who has barely faced a credible opponent as of yet.

You just presented me with two ranking lists boasting the likes of Ali, Foreman, Norton, Frazier, Holmes, Shavers and Bonavena. To me, that shows that that era ****s all over the current one and subsequently, your thread fails.

[Naps]

Awesome retort.. I bow to you..

You only bow to small boys.

How does it feel to be branded a ***** by loads of people on this site where you spend most of your time?