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  • mathed
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    #11
    I have heard of him but never seen him. Please let him fight one of the Klitschkos, at least he is the same height!!

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    • Khmelnytsky
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      #12
      Originally posted by HeartAttack
      Lately, he has showed me everything to be "The Man" except for a f.ucking personality. Damn the Euro heavies, we need characters to go along with all the skill.
      well that's a matter of perspective, i much prefer a Vitali/Vlad type guy rather than a mayweather braggadocio
      douchbag

      in any event, i think the biggest reason is exposure, people buy into whatever gets shoved down their throats the most in our society, if you have ******s who get alot of airtime like kellerman, atlas, & bernstein going on and on about how Arreola (or before him Peter) are the next Tyson people assume they know their stuff and assume they have no alterior motives/bias so they buy it.

      Yeah i definitly think Dimitrenko is probably the best unheard of heavy, and depending how he develops and does on a big stage (performs up to potential) could maybe even end up being more successfull than Povetkin (who i really like too)

      *****ko and Boytsov are two others that could be real players in the future as well.

      on terms of career path and quality of opposition Boytsov just fought garcia and ko'd him in 2, the fight before Garcia fought Arreola and he TKO'd Garcia in 3 but never managed to drop Garcia to the canvas, Boytsov dropped him twice so i do believe the punching power is real + Boytsov's only 22
      Last edited by Khmelnytsky; 03-25-2009, 03:06 PM. Reason: spelling

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      • The Hammer
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        #13
        Originally posted by Khmelnytsky
        on terms of career path and quality of opposition Boytsov just fought garcia and ko'd him in 2, the fight before Garcia fought Arreola and he TKO'd Garcia in 3 but never managed to drop Garcia to the canvas, Boytsov dropped him twice so i do believe the punching power is real + Boytsov's only 22
        Yes that was an impressive performance by Boytsov.

        There is a problem though: Kohl is too stingy to pay for a veteran fringe contender for Dimitrenko and Boytsov to fight, someone like Williamson or McCline.

        Boytsov is up against journeyman Leo Nolan next, but he's only on the same level as Denis' past three opponents.
        Last edited by The Hammer; 03-25-2009, 07:55 PM.

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        • Zocalo
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          #14
          I would be surpised if three people on this entire message board have actually seen 2 or his 3 last fights

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #15
            Dimitrenko might just be the man to suceed the klits. He's big and strong witha good varied attack. He's been mentioned lately for a titleshot against Wlad if the Haye fight somehow doesn't come off. He just might be the most dangerous challenger for Wlad out there although I think Dimitrenko's chances would be a lot better if he waited another year or so.

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            • Scott9945
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              #16
              Originally posted by PittyPat
              When it comes to young up-and-coming HWs, all everyone ever talks about is Haye, Arreola and occasionally Povetkin. Sam Peter was blasted away and exposed last year, and the Cameron-Tua match looks unlikely to ever happen. Among others.

              But you're all forgetting someone!

              He's undefeated, he's six foot fucking seven, he looks like Ivan Drago, and he fights real good (head/upper body movement, earmuffs, footwork).

              So why does nobody ever mention Alexander Dimitrenko in their HW discussions? I think he'd give anyone a good fight right now. I've been saying it for a lil while but if Haye, Arreola and Povetkin are out of the picture for a Wlad title fight, why can't he face the highly-ranked Dimitrenko?

              WAR Sascha! Consider me a fan.


              Dimitrenko has never appeared on American TV, live or on tape. The truth is that he is unknown by everyone except the most serious boxing fans in the US. That is something he needs to deal with if he wants to ever make Klitschko money.

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              • HeartAttack
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                #17
                Originally posted by Canada Joe
                Yes that was an impressive performance by Boytsov.

                There is a problem though: Kohl is too stingy to pay for a veteran fringe contender for Dimitrenko and Boytsov to fight, someone like Williamson or McCline.

                Boytsov is up against slick journeyman Leo Nolan next, but he's only on the same level as Denis' past three opponents.
                lol, no offense but its obvious you have never seen Leo fight if you call him slick. I was there when he lost to that journeyman. TBH, I had Nolan narrowly winning that fight, but Guerrero (I believe that was the other guy's name) was the aggressor the entire fight and was sloppy as hell but landed occasionally. Boytsov should walk through him and outwork Nolan. Im not sold on Boytsov at all. I still think the fight with Pala was a dubious stoppage because Ondrej was starting to get the best of Denis. If Boytsov is as good as everyone says, then he should covincingly beat guys like Pala. I think a rematch would be good for both, but don't see it happening. Dimitrenko desperately needs exposure on American television and I do believe they would take better to how Sascha fights than they do the Klitschkos. As far as the personality the earlier poster didn't want ala Mayweather. Thats not what i was talking about, hell someone like George Foreman (older version) or Shannon Briggs (actually pretty damn personable guy) would do loads for any heavyweight, especially one little known like Dimitrenko.

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                • PittyPat
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Scott9945
                  Dimitrenko has never appeared on American TV, live or on tape. The truth is that he is unknown by everyone except the most serious boxing fans in the US. That is something he needs to deal with if he wants to ever make Klitschko money.
                  It may be partly be up to him, but it's as much in the hands of his and any potential opponents' promoters than anyone else. He's been doing the hard work by moving up the ranks and impressing the diehards, so it should be the responsibility of any clever people around him to get some exposure his way.

                  Since the alphabets seem to be so finicky about shoving mandatories (i.e. Povetkin, Thompson, Maskaev!!!!!, Gomez, etc.) in front of their Klitschko beltholders, I reckon it's about time they gave big Sascha a chance if that's the direction they intend on continuing to take.
                  Last edited by PittyPat; 03-25-2009, 07:59 PM.

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                  • The Hammer
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HeartAttack
                    I still think the fight with Pala was a dubious stoppage because Ondrej was starting to get the best of Denis. If Boytsov is as good as everyone says, then he should covincingly beat guys like Pala.
                    What do you mean, "guys like Pala"?

                    Ondrej is better than you make him out to be. He probably deserved a close decision win against Dettweiler, and he looked good against Akinwande.

                    I saw his fight with Airich and although it was scored an MD, I thought Pala won every round. He dominated the last two rounds and almost stopped Konstantin.

                    I've never seen Boytsov-Pala, I can't find it anywhere, so I can't comment on it. But from what I've seen in their other fights, both Pala and Boytsov have very good potential.
                    Last edited by The Hammer; 03-25-2009, 08:05 PM.

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                    • Mr. Ryan
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by HeartAttack
                      Im driving the Dimitrenko bandwagon. I think he is the future of the division and not very far from being the present. He has heart and a decent chin (watch his fight with steroided Timo Hoffman) and throws to the bodt (look at his one punch KO of Luan Krasniqi) and stays busy. I used to think he was an absolute waste of height, but he has matured as a fighter more than anyone I have seen in years. Well, in the heavies in years, its really somehting reminescent of how Pacquaio has developed into a complete fighter. Alexander had power but never used it and just boxed his way to decisions. Lately, he has showed me everything to be "The Man" except for a f.ucking personality. Damn the Euro heavies, we need characters to go along with all the skill.
                      I stopped being a fan once he fought Batchelder and was saved by the ref on very questionable low blow calls. He plays the refs too much, what happens when he faces a serious threat with a neutral ref?

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