Rate the top ten heavyweights

[Chunk..]

My own rankings, I did not include Maskaev and Haye:

1. Wladimir
2. Vitali
3. Povetkin
4. Chagaev
5. Dimitrenko
6. JC Gomez
7. Arreola
8. Chambers
9. Peter
10.Valuev

I cannot put Haye in the top 10 because he's never beaten a top 15 heavyweight, just one fringe contender. Gomez losing to Vitali shouldn't cause him to drop out, after all he fought better than Peter.

Arreola has defeated two "top 50" young heavyweights: Witherspoon and Walker, as well as a number of decent journeymen.

Haye has only defeated shot old Barrett, and his home ref allowed him to fight dirty in that one (rabbit punching, hitting and holding, etc).

Haye does not impress me.

Wait until June 20, Hayemosexuals! You're in for a rude awakening.

Haye doesn't get into the top 10 because he hasn't beat a top 15 opponent, but Arreola gets in at #7 because he beat two "top 50" young heavyweights??!?!?

You hate for Haye is unhealthy Tunney.

[DarchinyFAN]

I cannot understand the ring having Maskaev that high. I wonder what that is based on.

I would put Haye in the top ten based on his run in the division below and his good win over Barrett. I think that win is at least as good if not better than Dimitrenko's win over Krasniqi.

This was my thought also.

Put a young guy on the list instead of Maskaev who has done nothing lately.

[The Hammer]

Haye doesn't get into the top 10 because he hasn't beat a top 15 opponent, but Arreola gets in at #7 because he beat two "top 50" young heavyweights??!?!?

You hate for Haye is unhealthy Tunney.

But Arreola has beaten MANY heavyweights besides those guys, Haye only two.

Arreola easily KOed Cliff Couser, who KOed Barrett.

[BattlingNelson]

But Arreola has beaten MANY heavyweights besides those guys, Haye only two.

Arreola easily KOed Cliff Couser, who KOed Barrett.

A unified champion moving up from a division below deserves a ranking IMO. That happens all the time.

For example if Pavlik beat Abraham and moved up to SMW surely he would be deserving of a top 10 ranking no matter how stacked the division is.

So based on that Haye deserves a spot.

[The Gunner]

But Arreola has beaten MANY heavyweights besides those guys, Haye only two.

Arreola easily KOed Cliff Couser, who KOed Barrett.

Barrett ruined him in the rematch though which was before Arreola fought him, he never won another fight after Barrett destroyed him. LOL!!!

[Klitschko2011]

Barrett ruined him in the rematch though which was before Arreola fought him, he never won another fight after Barrett destroyed him. LOL!!!

Barrett is a washed up weak chinned gatekeeper that hasn't beaten anybody with a pulse in his pathetic career.....Haye beating Barrett proves nothing.

Haye dosen't deserve to be in the top 10. His cruiserweight resume ain't that good either, he only really has 1 good win on his weak resume (washed up Mormeck). The win over glass chinned Maccarinelli is overrated. Macca suffered his 3rd KO loss a couple weeks ago to some unknown light hitting African. The unknown African came into the fight with just 5 KO's on his record and he KTFO Macca LOL.

[Chunk..]

But Arreola has beaten MANY heavyweights besides those guys, Haye only two.

Arreola easily KOed Cliff Couser, who KOed Barrett.

But none of them were top 15 opponents were they Tunney? You said Haye isn't in your top 10 because he didn't beat a top 15 opponent. So why does Arreola get into the top 10 then, if he hasn't beat a top 15 opponent?

[The Hammer]

But none of them were top 15 opponents were they Tunney? You said Haye isn't in your top 10 because he didn't beat a top 15 opponent. So why does Arreola get into the top 10 then, if he hasn't beat a top 15 opponent?

Because he's beaten many more good fringe contenders/journeymen than the ONE Haye's beaten (with the help of his home ref Davis).

If Haye would have beaten ONE "top 15" heavyweight like Virchis or Ibragimov at the time, he would belong there. Or, if he had beaten SEVERAL others on the same level as Barrett, several fringe contenders or top journeymen, he would belong there.

And it depends on who the fringe contenders/journeymen are. Boytsov has beaten several decent journeymen now, but it doesn't really add up to enough to put him in the top 10 yet.

[The Gunner]

Barrett is a washed up weak chinned gatekeeper that hasn't beaten anybody with a pulse in his pathetic career.....Haye beating Barrett proves nothing.

Haye dosen't deserve to be in the top 10. His cruiserweight resume ain't that good either, he only really has 1 good win on his weak resume (washed up Mormeck). The win over glass chinned Maccarinelli is overrated. Macca suffered his 3rd KO loss a couple weeks ago to some unknown light hitting African. The unknown African came into the fight with just 5 KO's on his record and he KTFO Macca LOL.

I agree with all this, he gets no credit for knocking the glass chinned Wlad out either, or his sister Vitali. LOL!

[Davros?]

1: Sam Peter
2: Rogan
3: Harrison
4. James Toney
5. Chambers
6. Skelton
7. Tyson Fury
8. Price
9: Frank Bruno
10: David Haye