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  • #71
    call me crazy but for some reason i could see Roy beating Taylor.

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    • #72
      the latest rumor is jmm versus floyd mayweather july 11 on hbo

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      • #73
        Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
        Jones as of now, beats Froch, Taylor, Bute, Andrade, Inkin, Green, and Bika?
        Yes, no doubt. You have to rationalize something. Those names, while still respectable all have deficiencies that Jones can exploit. These guys are not Calzaghe, who has very few *****s in his armor.

        Froch>Very inexperienced and his defense is a huge liability in a fighter who was probably the hardest punching 168 lb fighter ever.

        Taylor>Fades late and while he is fast, he takes allot of shots too. His chin has not always held up.

        Bute>Even though he reminds me of a very limited version of Joe Calzaghe, he is actually nowhere near that caliber. Bute is not that fast and while he can put combinations together, he can be hit and his punch resistence is not that great. Not to mention, he throws nowhere near the punches Joe does. I would expect Jones to knock him out @ 168 with the first real combination he landed.

        Andrade>He is basically just like Sheika was except he could probably take the punishment for 20 rounds. I would expect Jones to clobber him and win a shutout UD. He is simply way toot slow and he doesn't punch hard enough to keep Roy from throwing combinations.

        Green>Would be too nervous to take advantage of Roy. He fights with the left hook, which Jones has really never been prone to being hit by from an orthodox fighter. I would expect Roy to probably TKO him @ 168. Allan does not focus long enough to make it a fight and would get discouraged when he got hit a few times.

        Inkin>????- I have not seen him fight to be able to say. I heard he is a good boxer with little real pop. I would expect Jones to be able to control him with experience and beat him pretty easily because he lacks any power to keep Jones honest. Much like Tito had trouble doing.

        Bika>A very powerful man that would most likely be able to take Jones' power shots for the most part. The thing is that he can be hit and aside from pressure and workrate, I would expect his minimal speed and creative punching would get him in trouble with Roy. I would go on to say he will lose a UD to Jones.

        Note* My reasoning for allot of these picks that seem a little irrational is because Jones will carry his power south to 168 and by the looks of things, the fight with Joe has sharpened Roy up quite a bit. Much like the fight with Lennox Lewis did for V. Klitschko. The fights after those must seem easy compared to those fights and that's exactly how Roy looked saturday even though we both know he was in there with a limited fighter.

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        • #74
          Taylor might be too much for Roy at this stage. I think Roy's biggest problem with Calzaghe was the work rate though. Taylor doesn't have have a big work rate but his speed, strength and jab are enough to beat Jones.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Truth View Post
            People can say all day and all night that he should retire. Capitan Obvious to the rescue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think he should retire too, but he doesn't want to.

            So it what it is, we talk about his career as an active fighter. Either that, or just pretend like he retired. Whatever makes you happy...
            Co-Sign all day pimpin! At this point no matter what he does people will b*tch like its the time of the month.

            So like said, it is what it is, let the man be...... a champ...... again......lol

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            • #76
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
              This is crazy to think about really


              Roy Beats Bernard



              Bernard beats Johnson and tarver who both beat Roy

              If Roy beats Jermain who beat Bernard twice..

              THEN THEY HAVE TO GET IT ON!
              ............. I would be happy.

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              • #77
                Not just because im a fan But I strongly feel Roy beats Taylor.. A guy like taylor isnt aggressive and stays in the middle of the ring most of the time.. Only guys who do well against roy now are pressure fighters that punch alot.. Taylor is not that, Roy has faster hands and more power. Roy wins.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Truth View Post
                  He should fight Lacy first, then take it from there...
                  He beats a hand picked washed up club fighter and somehow people believe his career is reborn? What he should do is retire before someone truly hurts him.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Chase8400 View Post
                    Yes, no doubt. You have to rationalize something. Those names, while still respectable all have deficiencies that Jones can exploit. These guys are not Calzaghe, who has very few *****s in his armor.

                    Froch>Very inexperienced and his defense is a huge liability in a fighter who was probably the hardest punching 168 lb fighter ever.

                    Taylor>Fades late and while he is fast, he takes allot of shots too. His chin has not always held up.

                    Bute>Even though he reminds me of a very limited version of Joe Calzaghe, he is actually nowhere near that caliber. Bute is not that fast and while he can put combinations together, he can be hit and his punch resistence is not that great. Not to mention, he throws nowhere near the punches Joe does. I would expect Jones to knock him out @ 168 with the first real combination he landed.

                    Andrade>He is basically just like Sheika was except he could probably take the punishment for 20 rounds. I would expect Jones to clobber him and win a shutout UD. He is simply way toot slow and he doesn't punch hard enough to keep Roy from throwing combinations.

                    Green>Would be too nervous to take advantage of Roy. He fights with the left hook, which Jones has really never been prone to being hit by from an orthodox fighter. I would expect Roy to probably TKO him @ 168. Allan does not focus long enough to make it a fight and would get discouraged when he got hit a few times.

                    Inkin>????- I have not seen him fight to be able to say. I heard he is a good boxer with little real pop. I would expect Jones to be able to control him with experience and beat him pretty easily because he lacks any power to keep Jones honest. Much like Tito had trouble doing.

                    Bika>A very powerful man that would most likely be able to take Jones' power shots for the most part. The thing is that he can be hit and aside from pressure and workrate, I would expect his minimal speed and creative punching would get him in trouble with Roy. I would go on to say he will lose a UD to Jones.

                    Note* My reasoning for allot of these picks that seem a little irrational is because Jones will carry his power south to 168 and by the looks of things, the fight with Joe has sharpened Roy up quite a bit. Much like the fight with Lennox Lewis did for V. Klitschko. The fights after those must seem easy compared to those fights and that's exactly how Roy looked saturday even though we both know he was in there with a limited fighter.
                    Hey as a Calzaghe fan I can probably be accused of building up Roy as of now to be better than he is. Truth is I genuinely don't think he's as shot as has been said, and as per Hopkins more people are now accepting. But I will not entertain the idea he beats all the top 10 SMW's bar Kessler. I'm afraid I find you to just be to favourable on Roy and those reasons for each guy don't go far enough to really be more than the odd reason with mostly wishful thinking.

                    Froch being in experienced isn't the best reason for him losing to Roy. He's had quite a few pro bouts, after this versus a big name in the states. Froch's defence maybe poor yes, but his stance is such that he's aiming to be out of your range, and in his. That mixed with a tough chin, a lot of power and good conditioning for 12 rounds is an awful mix for Roy right now I'm afraid. Roy could pull it off, but Froch would be close over dog, as much as I as a Jones fan, Calzaghe fan, and Froch hater, hate to admit.

                    Taylor is simply has too good an all round game for Roy to have a hope at exploiting him too easily. Taylor has decent enough speed, defence, movement, boxing ability, jab. To say he loses it on chin and fading late is ironic to say the least, given his chin is not worse then Roys, at least now, and neither is his conditioning, now. So that can be completely turned on it's head.

                    Bute, again too good of an all rounder for Roy to be able to exploit too much. His chin isn't as tough as some others ok, but Roy isn't throwing power shots that often anymore, let alone landing them. If he can't KO Hanshaw or Tito, how does he KO some of these guys more accomplished at as high a weight?

                    Andrade - I can see Roy winning this one, I really can. However, as is always the case with Andrade, he has brutal power Roy would have to be careful to avoid all night, and Andrade could easily end it in a flash. But, I would favour Roy here, yes.

                    Green - Not seen loads of him, but I don't think Roy would start as favourite.

                    Inkin - loses due to lack of power. Well, does Calzaghe have power now or not, for eg? He has enough, and so well could Inkin, at least enough to keep him off him enough.

                    Bika is a solid enough boxer, very hard hitter, rough, and can go 12 rounds at a good pace. He's also reasonably quick with an ok chin. I'd see Roy getting KO'd, or just pulling of a UD win perhaps.


                    Now there's probably a couple of fights in there Roy can win, but it's 2 at most imo. As for Jones taking his power through to SMW, depends on his conditioning and body. I've read in detail how apparently his body only 3 years on fully recovered from going up to HW then back down to LHW. He's messing around again a little already so it's no certainty he's healthier at SMW versus LHW. Could be the case though. However, Tito was at 170 and Roy didn't KO him, a naturally much lighter fighter.
                    Last edited by Kris Silver; 03-23-2009, 05:28 PM.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Truth View Post
                      He should fight Lacy first, then take it from there...
                      Nice sig. Yea i want him to TKO Lacy first so Taylor-Jones can get Hyped up more since Taylor only UD'd Lacy. RJJ would make a statement by KOing Lacy.

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