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  • Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
    Everything he's earned throughout his career is what gives him the chances... just like every other hall of fame fighter that fights on past his best days, are still able to get title shots, based on what they have accomplished in their primes.

    What did Barrerra do? What did Holyfield do? What did Larry Holmes do?

    They had hall of fame careers.
    Can he still make super-middle? He wouldn't be the same. Unless he goes for a non-title catch-weight fight.

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    • Originally posted by black.ink View Post
      Can he still make super-middle? Unless he goes for a non-title catch-weight fight.
      Hes been saying he can no problem.. he weighed 170 for the trinidad fight and said he felt great... and he weighed 173 for the Sheika fight, which he didnt even have too... I personally think he could do it.. but ya never know...

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      • I'm a big Jones fan, but all this weight gain, weight loss, weight gain, weight loss, this division, that division...how can that be good for his body?

        If he thinks he can do it, then he can. He knows his body best. But I still think that the big weight loss after Ruiz played a part in his "KO by...." losses.

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        • Originally posted by WESS View Post
          please...... Roy's a vet and been in the game as a champ when those fighters above where wearing diapers......
          The problem is that it is now Roy that is the one wearing diapers and he is to old to be fighting world class fighters.

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          • Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
            The problem is that it is now Roy that is the one wearing diapers and he is to old to be fighting world class fighters.
            Call me crazy but they said the same thing about the guy that made Joe Calzaghe look like the average Joe and took young Pavlik to school. What was his name and how old is he?

            Didn't fat man old George Forman do something along those lines and prove EVERYONE wrong?????? no????

            Jones is old but not shot and will give any top guy problems. People are just looking at Jones from the 90's and say he's shot. He's just not the BEST P4P king anymore. He's touchable and the fact that people say he's shot just proves how GREAT he once was. He will give any guy problems and hang with the best. He just wont DOMINATE anymore.

            as far as Lacy. Jones will school him to a UD. Kind of like what the old vet Hop did to young Pav. It'll be like stealing from a baby. Just like Joe did to the over hyped "Mini Mike" at the time.

            Taylor is a different story. I haven't made my mind up. But like I said before, he'll give ANYONE problems.

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            • Originally posted by WESS View Post
              Call me crazy but they said the same thing about the guy that made Joe Calzaghe look like the average Joe and took young Pavlik to school. What was his name and how old is he?

              Didn't fat man old George Forman do something along those lines and prove EVERYONE wrong?????? no????

              Jones is old but not shot and will give any top guy problems. People are just looking at Jones from the 90's and say he's shot. He's just not the BEST P4P king anymore. He's touchable and the fact that people say he's shot just proves how GREAT he once was. He will give any guy problems and hang with the best. He just wont DOMINATE anymore.

              as far as Lacy. Jones will school him to a UD. Kind of like what the old vet Hop did to young Pav. It'll be like stealing from a baby. Just like Joe did to the over hyped "Mini Mike" at the time.

              Taylor is a different story. I haven't made my mind up. But like I said before, he'll give ANYONE problems.
              I am not sure where you have been for the past five years but anytime Roy Jones has fought anything close to a world class fighter he has had his ass handed to him. And that is not my opinion it is fact. As far as trying to compare Jones to Hopkins that is just insane. I believe that Hopkins is a freak of nature and a fighter like him only comes along once in a lifetime if even that often. And along with Hopkins you also mentioned Big George. One thing I will say about trying to compare Roy to those fighters is the style of fighters and how they fought cannot be compared and nothing else needs to be said. But, I will give you credit that you mentioned two fighters that were successful out of how many thousands that were not and fought way past their primes? And if you want me to start making a list of those fighters I will most definitely come up with more then just two examples, and it will take awhile to compose it.

              In closing I would like to say that I am sure Roy can beat club fighters and maybe even some fringe contenders. However, he has already proven that he can no longer beat world class fighters, if you don't believe me look at his record since 2004. He has not beaten one top 25, mush less a top 10 fighter, in almost six years. Plus, what does he have to prove by beating up tomato cans? He is a shoe in for the HOF and I would hope he still has millions in the bank. So, I ask again what does he have to prove? And if you are truly a fan of his I don't understand why you would want to see him fight another fight. After all beating up washed up club fighters only proves one thing. And what it proves is that Roy can still beat fighters that are lacking world class talent and proves nothing else.
              Last edited by Ravens Fan; 03-30-2009, 02:21 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
                I am not sure where you have been for the past five years but anytime Roy Jones has fought anything close to a world class fighter he has had his ass handed to him. And that is not my opinion it is fact. As far as trying to compare Jones to Hopkins that is just insane. I believe that Hopkins is a freak of nature and a fighter like him only comes along once in a lifetime if even that often. And along with Hopkins you also mentioned Big George. One thing I will say about trying to compare Roy to those fighters is the style of fighters and how they fought cannot be compared and nothing else needs to be said. But, I will give you credit that you mentioned two fighters that were successful out of how many thousands that were not and fought way past their primes? And if you want me to start making a list of those fighters I will most definitely come up with more then just two examples, and it will take awhile to compose it.

                In closing I would like to say that I am sure Roy can beat club fighters and maybe even some fringe contenders. However, he has already proven that he can no longer beat world class fighters, if you don't believe me look at his record since 2004. He has not beaten one top 25, mush less a top 10 fighter, in almost six years. Plus, what does he have to prove by beating up tomato cans? He is a shoe in for the HOF and I would hope he still has millions in the bank. So, I ask again what does he have to prove? And if you are truly a fan of his I don't understand why you would want to see him fight another fight. After all beating up washed up club fighters only proves one thing. And what it proves is that Roy can still beat fighters that are lacking world class talent and proves nothing else.
                I'll say it again for ya... He's touchable and the fact that people say he's shot just proves how great he once was. He will give any guy problems and hang with the best. He just wont DOMINATE and destroy anymore....

                I never compared him to Hop or Gerorge. I just stated they keep/kept on fighting past it. Jones can too. He just wont destroy people like he once did. The mans got money so its not that......

                He's just a fighter that wants to fight.... and if i'm in the local area that he's fighting in... you best believe I'll be there supporting him and the sport of boxing.

                I bet he will easily beat "mini mike" and its still up in the air with Taylor. I dont know what to think, especially since I have Taylor beating froch.

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                • Originally posted by WESS View Post
                  I'll say it again for ya... He's touchable and the fact that people say he's shot just proves how great he once was. He will give any guy problems and hang with the best. He just wont DOMINATE and destroy anymore....

                  I never compared him to Hop or Gerorge. I just stated they keep/kept on fighting past it. Jones can too. He just wont destroy people like he once did. The mans got money so its not that......

                  He's just a fighter that wants to fight.... and if i'm in the local area that he's fighting in... you best believe I'll be there supporting him and the sport of boxing.

                  I bet he will easily beat "mini mike" and its still up in the air with Taylor. I dont know what to think, especially since I have Taylor beating froch.
                  If you did not compare Roy to George or Hop I will go ahead and do it for you. When they both fought into their forties they both were able to beat world class competition, and I will say it again, Roy has shown that he is no longer capable of beating world class competition. Actually he has shown the opposite because he has not just lost but has gotten whooped by anything close to a world class fighter in the last five years. And the fact is he had not even forty yet and all his career will be become is a side show, it has happen to many a great boxer before him and I am sure it will happen tho many after him. In my opinion his career ending fights should have already been fought when he got knocked cold and then got whooped by an old Calzaghe.
                  Last edited by Ravens Fan; 04-06-2009, 11:24 PM.

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                  • alot of people talk about how great roy looked against omar sheika. but think about who he was faceing, a past his prime bum named omar sheika. jermain would win

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                    • i think id rather see taylor, if he beats froch, try and clean up the rest of the division.

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