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  • VERSION1 (V1)
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    one of my cowoker told me this a while ago not sure how true this is the quickest kayo in a pro bout for the history of Madison Square Garden was the 54 seconds it took Gerry Cooney to knock Ken Norten out.

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      #12
      Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1)
      one of my cowoker told me this a while ago not sure how true this is the quickest kayo in a pro bout for the history of Madison Square Garden was the 54 seconds it took Gerry Cooney to knock Ken Norten out.
      Hard to believe no one got dropped faster at the Garden, but it might be true!

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        youngest world chamion @ 17 wilfred benitez!

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          #14
          Originally posted by mellow_mood
          youngest world chamion @ 17 wilfred benitez!
          - Early in Marvin Hagler's career, announcers wouldn't introduce him with his chosen Alias of "Marvelous." As a result he had his name legally changed to include Marvelous. After that he no longer had trouble with proper introductions.
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            #15
            Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1)
            one of my cowoker told me this a while ago not sure how true this is the quickest kayo in a pro bout for the history of Madison Square Garden was the 54 seconds it took Gerry Cooney to knock Ken Norten out.
            - Mayweather's only official knockdown came in a fight against Carlos "Famoso" Hernández Mayweather entered the bout with injured hands. When Mayweather hit Hernández with a left hook in round 6, the pain caused Mayweather to drop his left hand to the canvas, and the referee called it a knockdown. On a side note, although it was not officially recorded. Replays appeared to show Mayweather was knocked down in his fight with Zab Judah. Mayweather managed to win both fights by UD.

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              Jack Johnson "Fight Of The Century"

              In 1910, former undefeated heavyweight champion James J. Jeffries came out of retirement and said "I am going into this fight for the sole purpose of proving that a white man is better than a Negro".[2] Jeffries had not fought in six years and had to lose around 100 lb (45 kg) to try to get back to his championship fighting weight.

              At the fight, which took place on July 4, 1910 in front of 22,000 people, at a ring built just for the occasion in downtown Reno, Nevada, the ringside band played "All coons look alike to me". The fight had become a hotbed of racial tension, and the promoters incited the all-white crowd to chant "kill the ******".[3] Johnson, however, proved stronger and more nimble than Jeffries. In the 15th round, after Jeffries had been knocked down twice for the first time in his career, his people called it quits to prevent Johnson from knocking him out.

              The "Fight of the Century" earned Johnson $225,000 and silenced the critics, who had belittled Johnson's previous victory over Tommy Burns as "empty," claiming that Burns was a false champion since Jeffries had retired undefeated.


              [edit] Riots and Aftermath
              The outcome of the fight triggered race riots that evening — the Fourth of July — all across the United States, from Texas and Colorado to New York and Washington, D.C. Johnson's victory over Jeffries had dashed white dreams of finding a "great white hope" to defeat him. Many whites felt humiliated by the defeat of Jeffries and were incensed by Johnson's comments.[1]

              Blacks, on the other hand, were jubilant, and celebrated Johnson's great victory as a victory for the entire race. Black poet William Waring Cuney later highlighted the African-American reaction to the fight in his poem "My Lord, What a Morning". Around the country, blacks held spontaneous parades, gathered in prayer meetings, and purchased goods with winnings from backing Johnson at the bookmakers. These celebrations often drew a violent response from white men.

              Some "riots" were simply African-Americans celebrating in the streets. In certain cities, like Chicago, the police allowed them to continue their festivities. But in other cities the police and angry white citizens tried to subdue the celebrations. Police interrupted several attempted lynchings. In all, riots occurred in more than twenty-five states and fifty cities. At least 23 blacks and 2 whites died in the riots, and hundreds more were injured. A few white people were injured when they tried to intervene in a crowd's beating of a black man.[1]

              On April 5, 1915, Johnson lost his title to Jess Willard, a working cowboy who did not start boxing until he was almost thirty years old. With a crowd of 25,000 at the Vedado Racetrack in Havana, Cuba, Johnson was K.O.'d in the 26th round of the scheduled 45-round fight, which was co-promoted by Roderick James "Jess" McMahon and a partner. Johnson found that he could not knock out the giant Willard, who fought as a counterpuncher, making Johnson do all the leading. Johnson began to tire after the 20th round, and was visibly hurt by heavy body punches from Willard in rounds preceding the 26th round knockout. Johnson is said (without proofs) to have spread rumors that he took a dive,[citation needed] but Willard is widely regarded as having won the fight outright. Willard said "If he was going to throw the fight, I wish he'd done it sooner. It was hotter than hell out there".

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                #17
                Originally posted by deevel79
                Jack Johnson "Fight Of The Century"

                In 1910, former undefeated heavyweight champion James J. Jeffries came out of retirement and said "I am going into this fight for the sole purpose of proving that a white man is better than a Negro".[2] Jeffries had not fought in six years and had to lose around 100 lb (45 kg) to try to get back to his championship fighting weight.

                At the fight, which took place on July 4, 1910 in front of 22,000 people, at a ring built just for the occasion in downtown Reno, Nevada, the ringside band played "All coons look alike to me". The fight had become a hotbed of racial tension, and the promoters incited the all-white crowd to chant "kill the ******".[3] Johnson, however, proved stronger and more nimble than Jeffries. In the 15th round, after Jeffries had been knocked down twice for the first time in his career, his people called it quits to prevent Johnson from knocking him out.

                The "Fight of the Century" earned Johnson $225,000 and silenced the critics, who had belittled Johnson's previous victory over Tommy Burns as "empty," claiming that Burns was a false champion since Jeffries had retired undefeated.


                [edit] Riots and Aftermath
                The outcome of the fight triggered race riots that evening — the Fourth of July — all across the United States, from Texas and Colorado to New York and Washington, D.C. Johnson's victory over Jeffries had dashed white dreams of finding a "great white hope" to defeat him. Many whites felt humiliated by the defeat of Jeffries and were incensed by Johnson's comments.[1]

                Blacks, on the other hand, were jubilant, and celebrated Johnson's great victory as a victory for the entire race. Black poet William Waring Cuney later highlighted the African-American reaction to the fight in his poem "My Lord, What a Morning". Around the country, blacks held spontaneous parades, gathered in prayer meetings, and purchased goods with winnings from backing Johnson at the bookmakers. These celebrations often drew a violent response from white men.

                Some "riots" were simply African-Americans celebrating in the streets. In certain cities, like Chicago, the police allowed them to continue their festivities. But in other cities the police and angry white citizens tried to subdue the celebrations. Police interrupted several attempted lynchings. In all, riots occurred in more than twenty-five states and fifty cities. At least 23 blacks and 2 whites died in the riots, and hundreds more were injured. A few white people were injured when they tried to intervene in a crowd's beating of a black man.[1]

                On April 5, 1915, Johnson lost his title to Jess Willard, a working cowboy who did not start boxing until he was almost thirty years old. With a crowd of 25,000 at the Vedado Racetrack in Havana, Cuba, Johnson was K.O.'d in the 26th round of the scheduled 45-round fight, which was co-promoted by Roderick James "Jess" McMahon and a partner. Johnson found that he could not knock out the giant Willard, who fought as a counterpuncher, making Johnson do all the leading. Johnson began to tire after the 20th round, and was visibly hurt by heavy body punches from Willard in rounds preceding the 26th round knockout. Johnson is said (without proofs) to have spread rumors that he took a dive,[citation needed] but Willard is widely regarded as having won the fight outright. Willard said "If he was going to throw the fight, I wish he'd done it sooner. It was hotter than hell out there".
                Not to take anything away from the victory but with Jeffries coming off a six year layoff and having to lose 100 LBS.. It's impressive he was able to last 15 rds with Johnson. Of course fights did go a lot longer back then. Either way Kudos to Johnson for overcoming a pretty tough spot.

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                  Mike Tyson: The first and only man to tell another man that he wants to eat his children and stomp on thier testicles!

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                    Originally posted by DrewWoodside
                    Not to take anything away from the victory but with Jeffries coming off a six year layoff and having to lose 100 LBS.. It's impressive he was able to last 15 rds with Johnson. Of course fights did go a lot longer back then. Either way Kudos to Johnson for overcoming a pretty tough spot.
                    Yeah. I found it to be a very interesting read. Especially reading that he lasted 26 rounds in a scheduled 45round fight. Boxers nowaday's are primadona's compared to those of that time.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by deevel79
                      Mike Tyson: The first and only man to tell another man that he wants to eat his children and stomp on thier testicles!
                      Rule 11 is a bit dated. However, if they let a guy like RJJ use springs in his prime he would have been pretty out of control!

                      The Queensbury Rules

                      1. To be a fair stand-up boxing match in a twenty-four foot ring or as near that size as practicable.

                      2. No wrestling or hugging allowed.

                      3. The rounds to be of three minutes duration and one minute time between rounds.

                      4. If either man fall through weakness or otherwise, he must get up unassisted, ten seconds be allowed to do so, the other man meanwhile to return to his corner; and when the fallen man is on his legs the round is to be resumed and continued until the three minutes have expired. If one man fails to come to the scratch in the ten seconds allowed, it shall be in the power of the referee to give his awart in favour of the other man.

                      5. A man hanging on the ropes in a helpless state, with his toes off the ground, shall be considered down.

                      6. No seconds or any other person to be allowed in the ring during the rounds.

                      7. Should the contest be stopped by any unavoidable interference, the referee (is) to name the time and place as soon as possible for finishing the contest, to that the match can be won and lost, unless the backers of the men agree to draw the stakes.

                      8. The gloves to be fair-sized boxing gloves of the best quality and new.

                      9. Should a glove burst, or come off, it must be replaced to the referee's satisfaction.

                      10. A man on one knee is considered down, and if struck is entitled to the stakes.

                      11. No shoes or boots with springs allowed.

                      12. The contest in all other respects to be governed by the revised rules of the London Prize Ring.

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