Marvin Hagler vs Ray Leonard

[andrewcuff]

wasnt a fan of him not giving a rematch, wasnt a fan of the pouty half-retirements either

Hagler shouldn't have given in to Ray demands before the fight either: larger ring, 12 rounds, bigger gloves. Tsk tsk.

[BrendanWoodside]

I didn't like his retirements either and all of the psychology he brought to fights, but you can't argue with his skills or his resume.

His retirement act annoyed me. He was ducking Hagler for years. He waited until he perceived Hagler was on the wrong side of his prime to fight him. That being said, Hagler had to big of a hole to fill, to catch up to srl. 115-113 srl

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I didn't like his retirements either and all of the psychology he brought to fights, but you can't argue with his skills or his resume.

noone was arguing his skills...he had the goods



but you're talkin to a Hagler/Duran guy....i have no love for SRL

[andrewcuff]

His retirement act annoyed me. He was ducking Hagler for years. He waited until he perceived Hagler was on the wrong side of his prime to fight him. That being said, Hagler had to big of a hole to fill, to catch up to srl. 115-113 srl

He did wait until Hagler was on the wrong side of his prime, but I never understood why he took so much stick for not fighting him sooner. He was a WW after all not a MW. He fought Duran, Benitez and Hearns at 147 so you can't really complain that he didn't face Hagler sooner.

[ACHlLLES]

I think Hagler won, but fights this close should just be called a draw so neither man is screwed.

[Thread Stealer]

I just dont get why he did not learn his lesson from the Duran fight. He virtually did the same thing with Duran and almost lost that fight.

The judges were on some **** in the Duran fight. The scores shouldn't have been that close, Hagler won clearly.

Hagler was first and foremost a boxer, but you'd think facing smaller guys like Duran and Leonard, that he'd apply more pressure and use his size and strength more. Obviously he had the ability to use that sort of game plan as well.

[Levcon8686]

An old thread on it here......

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149188

I've only begun to take a big interest in boxing recently so haven't got round to seeing it or all the other classics! I'm not even through the 90's yet

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Hagler shouldn't have given in to Ray demands before the fight either: larger ring, 12 rounds, bigger gloves. Tsk tsk.

marvin is incapable of doing the ring-diva act and didnt bother with those details



agreed that it shoulda been 15

[andrewcuff]

noone was arguing his skills...he had the goods



but you're talkin to a Hagler/Duran guy....i have no love for SRL

Haha fair enough. I like all three of them, with Hagler and Leonard being my two favourite fighters of all time surprisingly!

Speaking of Duran, I've started reading his biography 'Manos de Piedra'. Good read!

[Testdead]

Hagler won.

The morons that voted Leonard are utter noobs or Mayweather fans.