The worst title defences youve ever seen?

[Mr. Ryan]

Jesus Ruiz had lost five of his previous nine fights. Dawson avoided his mandatory Diaconu and took a voluntary in June 2007.

Dawson didn't avoid Diaconu, Diaconu was injured so they found a late replacement. It was a blessing for Diaconu because there was no way he was going to beat Dawson.

[dans]

Dawson didn't avoid Diaconu, Diaconu was injured so they found a late replacement. It was a blessing for Diaconu because there was no way he was going to beat Dawson.

Thanks for the facts. Appreciate it. Too often people throw the word ducking around without knowing the truth.

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Well from that perspective, no it is not a bad defense. But the thread is about people who do not deserve the title shot to me. In my mind Vitali did not deserve that fight, just my opinion.

Well he must have deserved it because he won.

Vitali had the skills to beat Peter, Vitali had the skills to beat the Champion, thats why he was picked for the defence, and rightly so.

[BrendanWoodside]

The alphabet organizations and their mindless mandatories for the cheat the boxing world. A prime example of this is the WBA sanctioning a Gamboa vs Rojas for the WBA featherweight title. Chris John currently holds that belt. he has made all required mandatory defenses. He is not trying for a unification bout, thats how the wba usually goes about making a super champion. They are simply creating another title. I for one could care less about these belts. I just wanna see good fights get made. Too much is amde about this alphabet soup belt trash

[dans]

Well he must have deserved it because he won.

Vitali had the skills to beat Peter, Vitali had the skills to beat the Champion, thats why he was picked for the defence, and rightly so.

Yeah that's all well and good, I agree that he deserved the fight skills wise. However, he was picked for the defence because he obtained some bogus status as champion emeritus. But to me it's just bs that you can retire for four years then come back and get a title shot right away. I guess it angered me because I wanted a unification fight with Wlad. Then Vitali came in and insured we wouldn't have a heavyweight champ for another few years. Do you disagree with that?

[Steak]

were Bika, Sheika, Brewer, Reid, Lacy, Kessler, and Mitchell really that bad?

I don't think so.

haha, dont take it personally. I just used that generic insult to try and stimulate the thread, because thats what needs to be done sometimes to get attention on the board. Calzaghe's defences are really not much worse than Hopkin's or other long title reigns, and he has good names on his record among the mediocre ones.

speaking of Hopkins, his NC over Robert Allen is a pretty bad title defence. not that Allen is an awful fighter, but because Mills Lane knocked him out and yet it was considered a 'successful' title defence in Hopkins' legendary, record breaking middleweight title defence streak. nice.

[βetamax]

Thanks for the facts. Appreciate it. Too often people throw the word ducking around without knowing the truth.

Got to love how he twist facts to attack certain fighters.

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Yeah that's all well and good, I agree that he deserved the fight skills wise. However, he was picked for the defence because he obtained some bogus status as champion emeritus. But to me it's just bs that you can retire for four years then come back and get a title shot right away. I guess it angered me because I wanted a unification fight with Wlad. Then Vitali came in and insured we wouldn't have a heavyweight champ for another few years. Do you disagree with that?

Although Peter-Wlad II would have been funny, wlad knockdowns etc.

I thought it was good for them both to make history and be champion at the same time.

[Steak]

It could be that Martinez had many more fights which are not recorded on boxrec.com.

For example Alvaro Rojas who fought Duran and Kobayashi for the LW title is said to have won only 3 fights in his career but one of those wins includes former FW champion Clemente Sanchez. It's hard to believe a complete novice could beat a former champion.

Pete Rademacher vs Patterson is among the worst. He had no pro fights although he did win the Olympic gold medal.

thats a good point about the records. they can be very deceving if the country the guy is fighting in isnt good at record keeping.

but all the same, in my mind, if the fight was meaningful or important, chances are it would be recorded. so all those missing guys on a record were probebly just bums or low profile fighters, if you get what Im saying.

so...Martinez probebly had wins over nothing but bums, even if hes missing a bunch wins on his record.

and Radamacher wasnt that bad a title defence, imo. having no pro fights at all is questionable, but Radamacher was high off his win over the best Russian in the world and ended up dropping Patterson, didnt he? I can think of less talented fighters that got a title shot.

[TheGreatA]

thats a good point about the records. they can be very deceving if the country the guy is fighting in isnt good at record keeping.

but all the same, in my mind, if the fight was meaningful or important, chances are it would be recorded. so all those missing guys on a record were probebly just bums or low profile fighters, if you get what Im saying.

so...Martinez probebly had wins over nothing but bums, even if hes missing a bunch wins on his record.

and Radamacher wasnt that bad a title defence, imo. having no pro fights at all is questionable, but Radamacher was high off his win over the best Russian in the world and ended up dropping Patterson, didnt he? I can think of less talented fighters that got a title shot.

Yes but he still got a shot at the champion with no actual pro fights. That's as undeserving as it can get, despite his success in the amateurs.

Patterson probably fought worse men for the title (talent-wise), such as Tom McNeeley (the father of Peter McNeeley), but atleast they had some experience in the pros.