Will Klitschko-Gomez Prove To Be A Bracket Buster?

[βetamax]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that the Klitschkos donate a lot of money toward African charities yet just about all of their fans on here hate black people? I'm sure they'd be proud...

[The Hammer]

What's not amusing is that although the Klitschkos donate a lot of money toward African charities, a lot of people here hate and discredit them because they're white!

Deny it if you will, but it's the obvious truth.

[Feint]

I agree in that I too believe the biggest problem with the heavyweight division is also the same problem a lot of the other divisions have, and that is each has multiple “champions”. You have Wlad, you have Vitali, and just for laughs, you have two more belt holders in whatever the hell the WBA has going on right now. Now, most educated boxing fans consider Wlad to be the heavyweight champion but outside of us, who really knows? It’s just not good for the sport.

[Chase8400]

It is a statement of fact, you may not find him boring. You may prefer his jabbing, clinching style. I don't have a preference, I can watch it but I would much rather prefer to watch Marquez etc.

BUT to the average joe wanting some thrills in boxing he would NOT choose Wlad, which is why he won't be popular in America, because he's not exciting to the average person and there isn't enough of a cultural base.

He will be accepted as HW champ if he unifys because he has all the belts but he's boring to the average person which will always be a barrier to superstardom in the US.

Again, that's just a bunch of opinions. What don't you understand about that? I'm not trying to be rude here, but you do know what a fact is, right? Something that can be PROVEN. Please attempt to PROVE to me that Wladilir is a 'boring' fighter. This will be fun.

[Chase8400]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that the Klitschkos donate a lot of money toward African charities yet just about all of their fans on here hate black people? I'm sure they'd be proud...

That's stereotyping right there and hypocritical to the max. Just because a fan recognizes that their favorite fighter is a victim of prototypical mainstream acceptance does not make them a racist.

There is nothing about the Klitschko's to knock as far as overall sport goes, but there will always be critics. That's what throws up the red flag to their fans. I remember when Wlad Ko'd Austin with nothing but the left hand. 6-7 consecutive short left hooks. Immediately he was critisized for the fight being so one-sided. He never even had to throw a right hand. As Wlad called it, he 'uses the left to soften up his opponent and then uses the right to put them to sleep'. This is what Tyson was revered for, for a long time. His ability to dominate an opponent one sidedly for a round or two until he landed the money shot that ended matters. Yet, when Wlad does it, he is critisized. Fast forward to the Ibragimov fight and he is critisized for letting the fight go the distance. Steward knew it would happen because he understands the fan side of the game. Wlad was facing an awkward guy and did have him hurt while trying to finish the fight late. However, he was broken down with all the 'boring' and 'robotic' Euro fighter crap.

I don't know if the color of his skin has anything to do with the way Wlad is treated, but if you look at it as basically as possible, things do point in that direction. When a fighter is critisized for ending a fight the same way another is praised for, there will be fans wondering. And that's what is goin on.

-peace out.

[Walt Liquor]

What's not amusing is that although the Klitschkos donate a lot of money toward African charities, a lot of people here hate and discredit them because they're white!

Deny it if you will, but it's the obvious truth.

You are a moron. I've already discredited that argument. Check it out, here's a white fighter that black people love- Arturo Gatti (I got more if you need um ******).

[βetamax]

That's stereotyping right there and hypocritical to the max. Just because a fan recognizes that their favorite fighter is a victim of prototypical mainstream acceptance does not make them a racist.

There is nothing about the Klitschko's to knock as far as overall sport goes, but there will always be critics. That's what throws up the red flag to their fans. I remember when Wlad Ko'd Austin with nothing but the left hand. 6-7 consecutive short left hooks. Immediately he was critisized for the fight being so one-sided. He never even had to throw a right hand. As Wlad called it, he 'uses the left to soften up his opponent and then uses the right to put them to sleep'. This is what Tyson was revered for, for a long time. His ability to dominate an opponent one sidedly for a round or two until he landed the money shot that ended matters. Yet, when Wlad does it, he is critisized. Fast forward to the Ibragimov fight and he is critisized for letting the fight go the distance. Steward knew it would happen because he understands the fan side of the game. Wlad was facing an awkward guy and did have him hurt while trying to finish the fight late. However, he was broken down with all the 'boring' and 'robotic' Euro fighter crap.

I don't know if the color of his skin has anything to do with the way Wlad is treated, but if you look at it as basically as possible, things do point in that direction. When a fighter is critisized for ending a fight the same way another is praised for, there will be fans wondering. And that's what is goin on.

-peace out.

First, I'm only talking about his fans on here. Second, I didn't say ALL his fans on here are racists. Your being very naive if you can't the agenda of some of them. I have proof that at least one Klitschko fan *cough* within this thread spends their time on a white supremacist forum.

[The Hammer]

You are a moron. I've already discredited that argument. Check it out, here's a white fighter that black people love- Arturo Gatti (I got more if you need um ******).

The difference is that Gatti was a somewhat limited little guy who was beaten up by Floyd Mayweather and others. He was not seen as threatening to people who believe in the athletic superiority of black boxers, because although he had lots of heart and courage, he clearly wasn't highly athletically talented.

The Klitschkos shake some peoples' deeply held racist beliefs, Gatti did not.

Oh, and I am not a moron or a ******. Insulting people like that does not help you win arguments, it just makes you seem ******.

Racism is ****** no matter who it's directed against. The belief in the athletic superiority of a race, isn't that much different than a racist belief in the intellectual superiority of another race. We have white heavyweight champions and a black US president now, so lets throw away the ****** old stereotypes.

[βetamax]

The difference is that Gatti was a somewhat limited little guy who was beaten up by Floyd Mayweather and others. He was not seen as threatening to people who believe in the athletic superiority of black boxers, because although he had lots of heart and courage, he clearly wasn't highly athletically talented.

The Klitschkos shake some peoples' deeply held racist beliefs, Gatti did not.

Oh, and I am not a moron or a ******. Insulting people like that does not help you win arguments, it just makes you seem ******.

Racism is ****** no matter who it's directed against. The belief in the athletic superiority of a race, isn't that much different than a racist belief in the intellectual superiority of another race. We have white heavyweight champions and a black US president now, so lets throw away the ****** old stereotypes.

Your suggesting that some people don't want to accept a white athlete because of racist stereotypes. Who are these people? Why would they not want to accept white athletes? Do they have any power to enforce their views?

[The Hammer]

Your suggesting that some people don't want to accept a white athlete because of racist stereotypes. Who are these people? Why would they not want to accept white athletes? Do they have any power to enforce their views?

You can answer that question far better than I can, because you are one of those people youself.

You've never made a positive comment about a white fighter since you joined here, except to acknowledge that the Klitschkos help to build schools in Africa. You support every black fighter, unless he's lost to a white boxer. You always root for the boxer with the darker skin.

You make negative comments about white fighters, such as Arthur Abraham's punches being "ugly" and that he has no boxing ability just power, and you ridiculed some commentators for suggesting Fedor is a great MMA fighter. You posted gifs on your sig of black fighters beating up white or Hispanic fighters.

So please, answer your own question.