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  • DUnknown1
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    #211
    Originally posted by Deja_Vous
    Aww punk..YOU fail...

    Chavez QUIT not because he was older but because he KNEW HE COULDN'T WIN.

    Stop making excuses like he was 40 when Randall punked him out.
    Chavez quit because his body was beaten up...
    It's understandable when your that old and gone through so many fights something Mayweather did not experience.

    Also give props to Chavez he did not duck anyone, eventhough he knew it was almost impossible to beat DLH at his age he still took the fight.
    Eventhough he knew that Whitaker, Randall ,and Taylor were bad matchups stylistically speaking he still took the fight.
    Something that cannot be said about Floyd.
    Keep sucking floyd's nuts, your better at it than your lame posts.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #212
      I picked Mayweather by decision but it wouldn't be easy as some have said. The thing with Chavez is he punished you throughout the fight.

      Even in his loss to Whitaker (wasn't a tie) Whitaker said he hit very hard and it was a tough fight.

      We also saw the punishment he gave to Meldrick Taylor, he never recovered from that beating.

      Chavez got stronger as the fight got on but I think Mayweather was just to fast for him and would be running all night long.

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      • Steak
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        #213
        where do all these jcc quit posts come from? it was a cut stoppage caused by a headbutt, and it was a bad one at that. it wasnt even like chavez was getting beat up, at worst he was behind 1 round, thats it.

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        • ferocity
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          #214
          Originally posted by wmute
          1) So, who else gave him trouble? names instead of bull**** please.

          Jesus Chavez?
          the guy who ate punches for the whole fight and did not win more than 2 rounds on any scorecard other than Lederman's?
          Burton and Corley?
          because they actually landed a few punches on him (those are not latinos)?

          Famoso?
          because Mayweather broke his hand halfway throught the fight?

          Your argument keeps on failing

          2) Mexican≠Latino. so what's your definition of latino? certainly you are not suggesting mexican fighters could never beat someone bigger than them right?

          3) I did not want to get into this because I actually like Margarito, and I hoped you would hav been smart enough to drop it but

          a) Chavez ****s on him in every compartment, minus stamina and chin (chin not anymore).
          what he has done in boxing?
          b) never managed to beat an elite guy as big as him.
          c) -and this i don't like reminding people, bcos I like the guy- he got caught cheating
          Originally posted by wmute
          Oh yeah let me add something,

          Skinny (less than 140 on fight night) Mayweather without the experience from the Castillo fights faces a 140 Chavez, he loses.

          A 140-147 Mayweather (145-150 on fight night) post-Castillo wins.
          Mayweather had trouble with Vargas, Hernandez, Chavez, Delahoya, Castillo. And how dumb is it to make excuses about a fighter in a fight seems like every tough fight Mayweather had then after he said he was hurt, always did say this after a ****ty performance instead of manning up and saying his opponet gave him hell.

          You pointing to Margarito never beating a guy his own size? Tell me you are not serious? I guess beating the best ww at the time just isn't enough for you. Before Margarito got to him. People were saying how big Cotto was at ww and how he gets close to or at 160 on fight night. You never been a fan of Margs so just stop it.

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          • wmute
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            #215
            Originally posted by ferocity
            Mayweather had trouble with Vargas, Hernandez, Chavez, Delahoya, Castillo. And how dumb is it to make excuses about a fighter in a fight seems like every tough fight Mayweather had then after he said he was hurt, always did say this after a ****ty performance instead of manning up and saying his opponet gave him hell.

            You pointing to Margarito never beating a guy his own size? Tell me you are not serious? I guess beating the best ww at the time just isn't enough for you. Before Margarito got to him. People were saying how big Cotto was at ww and how he gets close to or at 160 on fight night. You never been a fan of Margs so just stop it.
            You are gettting pathetic... Mayweather had no trouble whatsoever against Vargas and Chavez. Go watch the fights instead of clowning.

            If you actually watched the Famoso fight, you would see him hurting his hand on famoso's head after dominating the first half od the fight, by fighting he boxed with one hand and still won most of the rounds. Again go watch the fight instead of clowning.

            Hatton and Judah gave him a much harder time than all the fighters you mentioned, (which mostly acted as punching bags) except Castillo and De La Hoya, which I mentioned in my post. And let me go on... De La Hoya did not fight with a "latino" style, he moved in behind a fast jab and threw weak ass flurries to the body, since when latino fighters try to score with flurries? that's what it thought. Your arguments are only based on your wishful thinking.

            Do you even ****ing watch boxing or just jerk off to any mexican fighter? I had some respect for the fact that you have a vague understanding of the sport. However your bias is so immensely pathetic that you write bull**** like "Mayweather had trouble Vargas, Hernandez, Chavez".

            I never said I was a fan of Margarito, I said I liked the guy, the same way like I like Hatton. Good down to earth guys. I dislike the personality of Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Ray Leonard, but they are some of he greatest fighters I have ever seen in a ring. Hence whenever they stopped talking and get in the ring to fight, I was a fan of them. As nice as Hatton or Margarito are, boxingwise they are not on the same planet as the two jerks I mentioned, sorry... that is called being realistic.

            And yes Margarito is bigger than Cotto.
            Cotto did not move to 147 until he was 26. The last time Margarito made less than 140 he was 17. Cotto is 5'7". Margarito is 5'11"
            Do you think Margarito weighed less than Cotto on fight night? Please prove it. Because all these other numbers say something else.

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            • Da Hammer
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              #216
              Chavez by TKO. Like some people have said the most difficult fights for Mayweather were the Castillo fights and Chavez is an improved version of Castillo. Chavez when he struggled it was against fast fighters who threw so many punches a round like Taylor who last lightning fast and a fantastic work rate. Floyd on the other hand doesnt pressure a fighter and at the lower weights he would at times be forced to fight and stay in the pocket because some of his challengers had the speed to keep up with him. People underrate Chavez speed in his prime he could match just about anybody out their! Chavez would keep floyd in front of him all fight long bringing constant pressure attacking the body like he has never seen before. Not to mention Chavez is one of the best ever at cutting off the ring. Chavez power would intimidate floyd and wear him down. Chavez by late TKO!

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              • rickyisgood
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                #217
                chaves vs mayweather would look like marquez vs derrick Gainer

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                • .::EnRiQuE::.
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                  #218
                  Floyd pics him apart on the outside. jabs to the head and body would keep JCC on his heels. JCC cannot compare to the handspeed/footspeed of Floyd.
                  Floyd. UD

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                  • Ill_Will84
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                    #219
                    Floyd wouldn't even have the nuts to fight JCC.

                    Julio 11rd tko,might go superman on him just like he did on his uncle.

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                    • slicksouthpaw16
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      Chavez actually dipped his head like that to invite a punch, but would spring out the way and close the distance after his opponent had missed the shot. it wasnt a problem with his style, it was a setup, like how Mayweather leaves his left hand down sometimes.

                      Meldrick Taylor was throwing 80+ punches since the first round. thats what made Chavez hesitant, not the boxing. besides, Chavez was always a slow starter. Mayweather is not that kind of a combination puncher.

                      I didn't see Taylor very busy in those early rounds, actually no buiser than Mayweather at lightweight in most of his fights, see Chavez/Mayweather. It was a great fight, and Floyd landed a lot of punches and threw a lot as well. Taylor didn't start volume punching until around the middle of the fight( even though he started trading with Chavez in some instances earlier than that). My overall point is that he used simple boxing in those first few rounds, and even still he got the better of Chavez. Floyd would be even more effective because of his better defense( Chavez was landing right hands on Taylor even early) and his harder punch. Chavez also had problems cutting off the ring against Taylor and didn't really get into the fight until Meldrick gave him those opportunites by trading with him. It also happened in the fight with Whitaker. Floyd is just as fast on his feet as Whitaker and Taylor. He would keep Chavez turning.


                      have seen the Chavez-Whitaker fight a few times, there was no knockdown at all, and Chavez was never hurt. just tired.

                      Floyd did not have the power to trouble Castillo, he definately aint hurtin Chavez either.
                      Ive already stated that Chavez wasn't seriously hurt, he was just stunned because he came in reckless. The knockdown happend later in the fight, and again you should rewatch that fight one more time. There was an instance where Whitaker hit Chavez with a right hook that dropped him, and you can only see it if you watched the fight entire fight and not highlights.

                      Again, just because he didn't hurt Castillo doesn't mean he wouldn't hurt Chavez, size means a lot in boxing. Castillio was used to taking punches of bigger fighters because he was a full lightweight. Floyd could truley punch at lightweight and take a look at the middle rounds of Chavez/Whitaker and see how he was being slowed down with those body punches and didn't take as many chances as he did earlier in the fight. Floyd has stopped champions that has never been stopped before. I don't think he'd stop Chavez, but he'd definitely make him hesitant about coming in and had the power to hurt him.

                      Castillo had a 1 inch reach advantage over Chavez. thats it. and that really doesnt matter when Chavez had an easier time getting closer to opponents anyway. Chavez didnt have as long of a jab, but he used his jab as more of a lead left hand, which not only could bother his opponent but got him much closer to them, more so than Castillo's left jab.
                      Thats irrelevant. As ive stated, Castillio has better outside boxing ability and used his height more to his advantage. Chavez was all inside and little to no outside where as Castillio actually got full extension. Look at how better Castillo uses his jab to work his way inside.


                      Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 03-19-2009, 08:02 AM.

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