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  • Pugilistic™
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    #41
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    He pressures against limited competition (because they generally seem to be the ones trying to move away, and generally don't really have any power that he should be worried about), but he sticks to boxing against the good fighters I think.
    He pressured Judah and Quintana very well who are both decent fighters.

    I feel against Clottey though he will be the boxer again.

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #42
      Originally posted by Precision
      He pressured Judah and Quintana very well who are both decent fighters.

      I feel against Clottey though he will be the boxer again.
      I guess he is kind of an in-betweener.

      He pressures the movers and moves agains the pressurers.

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      • BattlingNelson
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        #43
        Originally posted by TheManchine
        You're right.

        Ali said that for every step Foreman took, he had to take two or three which would've led to him being tired out in the later rounds (especially under the Zaire heat). So instead of dancing away from Big George, which at that time was close to impossible (I don't remember anyone beating prime Foreman by moving away from him), he chose to let Foreman tire himself out instead.

        Ali, Young, Lyle and Peralta earlier in Foreman's career had success against him but none of them were truly able to use movement, all of them had their backs against the ropes and countered inbetween Foreman's wild punches.

        When Foreman came back in his 40's, using a lot of movement was the key to beating him.
        Yeah. I remember Ali wrote that even though he danced a lot in the early part of his career, he made sure his opponent took as many steps as he did. I remember checking that by looking at some old Ali fights and he was pretty much right. That amazed because it always seemed as if Ali was doing the moving, but in essense it just shows how great Ali's footwork was.

        As for the Lyle fight I thought Lyle also had some success slugging it out with Foreman. At least thats how I remember that fight. A prolonged slugfest.

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          #44
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          Yeah. I remember Ali wrote that even though he danced a lot in the early part of his career, he made sure his opponent took as many steps as he did. I remember checking that by looking at some old Ali fights and he was pretty much right. That amazed because it always seemed as if Ali was doing the moving, but in essense it just shows how great Ali's footwork was.

          As for the Lyle fight I thought Lyle also had some success slugging it out with Foreman. At least thats how I remember that fight. A prolonged slugfest.
          The fight turned out to be a slugfest but in the early rounds it was mostly Foreman throwing jabs with Lyle against the ropes countering over Foreman's jab with the right. After Lyle hurt Foreman with one of his rights, he went after George trying to score a KO and it became an all-out war which Lyle eventually lost.
          Last edited by TheGreatA; 03-16-2009, 05:17 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            Chavez vs. Camacho was a clinic on cutting off the ring.

            Jose Luis Castillo deserves a shout... he really knew how to shorten the distance between him and his opponent.
            im surprised you didnt metion the winkster.....

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              #46
              Originally posted by -Hyperion-
              im surprised you didnt metion the winkster.....
              He doesn't really cut off the ring though!

              Fighters generally come to him and throw and then he counters. I mean, either way, no matter when they throw, he just counters off of it, so area of the ring doesn't matter that much.

              The Taylor fight is not a good indicator, because he really loves having the ropes on his back or something.

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              • lest26
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                #47
                hatton or cotto

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  He doesn't really cut off the ring though!

                  Fighters generally come to him and throw and then he counters. I mean, either way, no matter when they throw, he just counters off of it, so area of the ring doesn't matter that much.

                  The Taylor fight is not a good indicator, because he really loves having the ropes on his back or something.

                  im drunk

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                  • Fox McCloud
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -Hyperion-

                    im drunk
                    That's tight. I quit sobriety last Friday. It's been working wonders for my game with girls.

                    GET AIM Marti! I had to delete MSN, because it ******, so... seriously, get AIM or facebook or something. I miss talking to you.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      I guess he is kind of an in-betweener.

                      He pressures the boxers and moves agains the punchers with good chins.
                      Sup dwiens

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