The Khan fight made me sick to my stomach.

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  • GrizzleBoy
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    #11
    Originally posted by mr.crust
    WTF!!! did Khan referee the fight? he did what he had to do,and in all honesty looked good while doing it.I dont particularly like khan,but I respect the way he has made the neccesary adjustments to come back from his ko loss,and yet muppets like you still **** on him.It is not his fault the way the fight ended,or the way it panned out after the cut,but he still had a job to do.What was he supposed to do?Have a word with the ref and ask him to stop it? get a fuqqing clue!
    Calm down Jimmy.

    If you actually read the whole thread, you can see multiple times where I say it's neither boxers fault what happened.

    The quote you're getting all pissy over, is in regards to the way people are treating the fight after it ended i.e. acting like the cut meant nothing/acting like Khan had anything to do with the stoppage.

    All this "he did what he had to do" stuff is also a load of bull. Infact it even proves my point. By saying, "but he still had a job to do" in spit of Barerras cut, you are infact confirming what I'm saying.

    You're basically saying, "yeah Barerra couldn't see out of one eye most of the time, but Khan still did a good job beating up a guy with one eye who was trying to protect his fight ending cut for five rounds".

    Blah.
    Last edited by GrizzleBoy; 03-15-2009, 02:27 PM.

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    • Roger Mellie
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      #12
      Originally posted by smirf123
      True Khan is not to blame its not his fault he did what any other fighter would have but he never obliterated barrera the way ppl make out the cut stopped the fight. In my opinion the the fight meant nothing, even if he did obliterate Barrera
      I have yet to see anyone on this forum suggest that he obliterated Barrera.Do you think that at this stage in his career in his second fight back from a heavy and humiliating defeat he should have taken on a top 5 fighter? do you think he should have fought another ***in? He deserves a lot of credit for taking this fight at this stage,and did as good a job as anyone could have hoped for given the circumstances.

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      • The Gully Gad
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        #13
        All i have to say on the matter is **** happens

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        • Roger Mellie
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          #14
          Originally posted by GrizzleBoy
          Calm down Jimmy.

          If you actually read the whole thread, you can see multiple times where I say it's neither boxers fault what happened.

          The quote you're getting all pissy over, is in regards to the way people are treating the fight after it ended i.e. acting like the cut meant nothing/acting like Khan had anything to do with the stoppage.

          All this "he did what he had to do" stuff is also a load of bull. I bet noone can really even explain what they mean when they say it.
          I think it is self explanatory,big nose.

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          • them_apples
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            #15
            Originally posted by GrizzleBoy
            The fight was a big thing for both parties.

            For Khan, it was an opportunity to show the world if he had the ability to stand up to someone who knows the ring like the back of his hand.

            For Barerra it was an opportunity to show the world that he can still fight.

            However NEITHER fighter was able to prove ANYTHING AT ALL!

            NOTHING!

            We saw nothing in that fight. Okay yes was saw hand speed, but Khan has had that since forever. What's new that we didn't know? Seriously, ask yourselves some questions here when we look at the outcome of the fight.

            Did Khan break Barerra down till he couldn't hold his hands up any longer and the ref had to stop the fight? No.

            Did Khan beat Barerra so bad he was knocked out? No.

            Did Khan consistently hurt Barerra at any time in the fight? No. (Even the commentators who thought Khan hurt Barerra had to correct themselves and say it was the clash that Barerra was wincing over).

            Did Khan beat Barerras face so bad he got a serious cut that ended the fight? No.

            So someone tell me what Khan achieved that is so monumental? The fight was a load of ****. NO REAL boxing fan should be happy about the way that fight went, only fanboys, which is what you'd expect. Can you imagine what people would say if it was Khan who got that cut? They would have NEVER let it go on for 5 rounds.

            Now...to those who say the cut meant nothing because Khan was dominating Barerra etc.

            When the ref/doc tells you they might stop the fight because of a cut you got from a clash of heads in round ONE, where do you go from there? Where does your strategy go?

            Barerra was the smaller, shorter armed guy who really NEEDED to get inside to get to work on Khan. When you have a cut that is ALREADY so bad that the fight could be stopped, getting inside is suicide.

            You cant go in first with your head because any rub/knock on a glove/arm/chest could **** your cut up even more and with the gash that Barerra had, getting inside would've shortened the time he had in the ring even more. (You can see evidence of this at the time when the fight was actually stopped as barerra had his head inside and was in khans arms. When he emerged with blood all over his face, the ref became weary and called him over to the doc and the fight was stopped.)

            Instead he opted to try and stay outside and box/potshot from the outside against a faster, longer armed, taller opponent..............all with only his right eye to see out of for 90% of the fight......

            Noone should be surprised that it didn't work .

            The thing that really sickens me, is not the fighters (you can't blame either boxer for the cut that stopped the fight), but the commentators and peoples attitude towards it.

            They were talking like Khan pulled off a really big win. Yes he looked good (against someone with one eye for 90% of the time lol), but what part of that contributed to his win? Not one part of his effort in training, or in the ring contributed to it.

            It sickens me that people are looking at this like Khan pulled a number on Barerra. I'm hardly a big fan of either fighter (so don't bother with the sour g****s arguement), but I knew there was potential for a real big fight and I was extremely excited about viewing it, but it never happened.

            If I was Khan, there's no way I'd be fully satisfied with that win.

            As a boxer, there's no way I'd be fully satisfied with that win.

            As a boxing fan, there's no way I'd be fully satisfied with that win, and I'm not.

            That is all.

            Wow lots of words lol.
            Yea I thought I was the only one who thought Khan wasn't punching for ****.

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            • Joe2608
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              #16
              He was dominating him in the 1st round before the cut even happened. Cut or no cut, if Barrera still had enough to beat him he would have done, but the fact is he couldn't land anything clean on Khan because he was too fast for him. Barrera needs to hang them up.

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              • GrizzleBoy
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                #17
                Originally posted by Joe2608
                He was dominating him in the 1st round before the cut even happened. Cut or no cut, if Barrera still had enough to beat him he would have done, but the fact is he couldn't land anything clean on Khan because he was too fast for him. Barrera needs to hang them up.
                You see, the thing about boxing, is that anything can happen, at any time.

                How can you say a fighter dominated another less than one round into the fight?

                Khan was hitting him yes, but was there damage? Was Barerra cowering? Was he phased at all? Was he stumling? Did he get nocked down?

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                • The Gully Gad
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                  #18
                  He was getting the head thumped off him! lol

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                  • GrizzleBoy
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                    #19
                    Okay guys here's a youtube video of round one (and two).

                    I'd like someone to show me where Khan was hurting Barerra before got cut (which was the ONLY time he took a step back from Khan).

                    [YOUTUBE]aBBMPkopBI8[/YOUTUBE]

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                    • Roger Mellie
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by GrizzleBoy
                      You see, the thing about boxing, is that anything can happen, at any time.

                      How can you say a fighter dominated another less than one round into the fight?

                      Khan was hitting him yes, but was there damage? Was Barerra cowering? Was he phased at all? Was he stumling? Did he get nocked down?
                      Oh dear,oh dear.stick to the wrestling son,theres a good boy.

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