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  • #21
    Originally posted by jching View Post




    This is what I was talking about - you can see he was rocked by these punches. Had MAB been able to see, he could have done more shots like these and the result could have been different in the end, as Barrera stated that he couldn't even feel Khan's punches.
    HA HA!!! your really hurting right now ar`nt you!
    do u seriously think barrera could win a rematch???

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    • #22
      Originally posted by jollystomper View Post
      HA HA!!! your really hurting right now ar`nt you!
      do u seriously think barrera could win a rematch???
      Nope, just saying that if Barrera could see in the fight, then he could have done more shots like that, been able to avoid more of Khan's shots, and the fight could have been different. Khan was affected by Barrera's very few cleanly landed punches, whereas Barrera wasn't really feeling Khan's.

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      • #23
        I admit I wanted Barrera to win. I also admit that being a MAB fan I can be biased.

        But I'm writing this trying not to be biased. Khan had impressive speed and dominated each and every round. He stuck to his gameplan, I'm not taking that away from him.

        The thing is, even though Khan won every round convincingly, I never expected Barrera to win on points and get a decision. (My weak-ass prediction was a TKO 9 victory for MAB.) I figured Khan would be quite active and exert a lot of energy. Even though he's 22 and in great shape, no fighter can keep up the pace Khan was going for 12 complete rounds. It was during the times that he slowed down that I thought MAB would strike for the kill. You might disagree, but I didn't think MAB had to dominate Khan to win. Because of Khan's weak chin, all MAB had to do was catch the youngin making mistakes and capitalize.

        My dreams, of course, shattered in Round 1 with a nasty clash of heads. That cut—no, make it that gash—was so bad you might as well have sent Jason with an ax into ring to do the same thing. At first, the commentators clowned MAB saying instead of bringing an entourage with him he should have brought a cutman. But in the next round when they got a closer look at the cut even they admitted that probably no cutman in the world could fix that thing.

        Now I don't put it past any fighter to make excuses, especially a proud one like MAB who you can tell hates to lose. But watch the fight again (or maybe, better yet, just look at the photos) and you'll see that the blood continually gushing out of his head is really all over the side of his face. You might not believe Barrera, but why does it seem so outlandish that he said blood was going in his eye? I mean, how could the blood NOT go in his eye? I believe his vision was affected and against that kind of speed, it's gonna be tough to win.

        Now it's already been said by some that Khan would have won every round without the cut happening. OK fine, but the fight would have kept going and I believe it would have reached the later rounds. Why? Because after the fight it appeared that MAB was more pissed than hurt during the interview. He didn't seem that damaged (to me, at least). I believe him when he said Khan's punches didn't really hurt him (they stunned him a few times, though, I will admit that, but Khan never sat on his punches). In a way, I think when a boxer's face is bloody as hell, it makes every punch he receives seem that more damaging. But I digress. MAB did get hit, but I also think he was blocking some **** with his arms and gloves.

        So, anyways, what the **** is my point? Basically, without that clash of heads MAB would had still had a chance to win. I'm not saying he would have won guaranteed. Khan could have coasted 12 rounds to the victory. Or maybe he would have stopped MAB eventually. But Khan would have been in danger for at least 3-4 more rounds (or, conceivably, to the end of the fight) had the cut not occurred.

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        • #24
          There's a one in five chance Barrera might have landed a KO punch on Khan's undoubtably dodgy chin. Even then, the one good shot Barrera landed Khan actually took very well. Other than that, anyone who thinks Barrera would have won is totally deluded... this 'later in the fight' stuff is total BS. At this stage of their careers Khan is simply the better boxer and the same is likely to be true, I'm afraid, of any of the top ten in the division.

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          • #25
            Good post sanchez about sums it up really. Who nows wat wud have happend in the second half of the fight!!

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            • #26
              I think Khan shown to be the faster and better fighter on the night (Barrera aint like he used to be no excuses)... but the cut did make a difference. I chose No, Khan would have still won, but the cut was a factor in the fight.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by No*Ordinary*Joe View Post
                Good post sanchez about sums it up really. Who nows wat wud have happend in the second half of the fight!!
                Summing it up would have been brief, Sanchez wrote an essay on the subject (decent one though)


                I am not a fan of Khan but he was too strong, fast and youthful for an old war horse like Barrera. Yes the cut was bad but it did not effect the outcome, many fighters (Hatton springs to mind) have managed to win many fights with terrible cuts.

                Barrera just wasn't in it I'm afraid, age comes to us all (at different times)

                As for Khan, he does have some of tools to do really well but to impress me he needs to take on Prescott again and show that he has learned to defend against a real puncher at that weight. Until then I will always expect him to be KO'd.
                Last edited by MickyHatton; 03-15-2009, 07:41 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by The Surgeon View Post
                  In my book this was Amirs night he was wipping ass in there, his speed and size advantages were glaring he fought a great fight and i dont think it would have mattered but it was clear the cut DID effect Marco. So im a NO

                  Also if it got stopped in the 4th or before it woulda been a No Contest right? I think anyway. So thank god it didnt as i had cash on a Khan stoppage and in the fith! But do u guys think they let it go on beyond the fourth in britain just so Khan could get the win on the cards?
                  I went to the fight mate and I was praying Barrera would win. That being said, Khan was awesome last night! He was using his reach and fast hands to perfection. I think without the cut there might have been a chance Barrera could have tagged him and shook him up but Khan was boxing so well I think he would have won a UD with or without the head clash.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Tuggers1986 View Post
                    I went to the fight mate and I was praying Barrera would win. That being said, Khan was awesome last night! He was using his reach and fast hands to perfection. I think without the cut there might have been a chance Barrera could have tagged him and shook him up but Khan was boxing so well I think he would have won a UD with or without the head clash.
                    U werent rockin a fake moustache, poncho and a Sombrero were u Tuggers? lol showed some UK Barrera fans in the crowd all Mexicaned up!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by The_Visitation View Post
                      There's a one in five chance Barrera might have landed a KO punch on Khan's undoubtably dodgy chin. Even then, the one good shot Barrera landed Khan actually took very well. Other than that, anyone who thinks Barrera would have won is totally deluded... this 'later in the fight' stuff is total BS. At this stage of their careers Khan is simply the better boxer and the same is likely to be true, I'm afraid, of any of the top ten in the division.
                      The only big punch that i saw MAB land did actually have an effect on Khan's legs.

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