Why Give Guys Like Cotto So Much Credit?

[DLT]

DLT, there's three threads below this one under "similar threads" that have to do with the same **** were you discredit Cotto and give Floyd the benefit of the doubt. Let it go man.

Hell I remember when you used to call Clottey avoided, and said he'd beat Cotto because he was bigger, and now you say it means nothing, and Cotto is the same size. Which is it?

1st off I am not discrediting Cotto. Im just saying that you guys are acting like he's doing something special. Why should he not fight Clottey or why would he be worried about fighting Clottey if he's really a good fighter? Its not like he's at any kind of disadvantage. Thats my main point and thats what I shouldve said all along. These guys are at no disadvantage when Mayweather clearly is and its a big one.

I use to say that Clottey would beat Cotto but I have aknowledged that Cotto has improved alot just like I have aknowledged that Pac has improved alot. They are much better then they use to be. Thats why I think its a 50/50 fight now. I have never said that Clottey will win because he is bigger. What I said is the same thing I said about Cotto vs Margarito before they fought. That was that Cotto is used to beating up on smaller guys so guys like Clottey & Margarito will be a shock to his system because of there size. Not that there so much bigger then Cotto but they were much bigger then the guys he was fighting at the time

[2501]

1st off I am not discrediting Cotto. Im just saying that you guys are acting like he's doing something special. Why should he not fight Clottey or why would he be worried about fighting Clottey if he's really a good fighter? Its not like he's at any kind of disadvantage. Thats my main point and thats what I shouldve said all along. These guys are at no disadvantage when Mayweather clearly is and its a big one.

I use to say that Clottey would beat Cotto but I have aknowledged that Cotto has improved alot just like I have aknowledged that Pac has improved alot. They are much better then they use to be. Thats why I think its a 50/50 fight now. I have never said that Clottey will win because he is bigger. What I said is the same thing I said about Cotto vs Margarito before they fought. That was that Cotto is used to beating up on smaller guys so guys like Clottey & Margarito will be a shock to his system because of there size. Not that there so much bigger then Cotto but they were much bigger then the guys he was fighting at the time

you discredit Cotto all the time. You call what Cotto did against Margarito "running" even though the majority of the punches he threw were power punches and in combinations while you call what Floyd does "boxing".

Its no secret that you are incredibly biased towards Floyd and against anyone who may be considered Floyd's competition.

[DLT]

you discredit Cotto all the time. You call what Cotto did against Margarito "running" even though the majority of the punches he threw were power punches and in combinations while you call what Floyd does "boxing".

Its no secret that you are incredibly biased towards Floyd and against anyone who may be considered Floyd's competition.

You are so wrong and never hear what I say like alot of other guys on here. Unlike other Floyd fans, I will rip him like I do anyone. I just think that he is the best fighter in the game but I do think he runs alot in some of his fights and is boring. However, I think pretty much 90% of that just comes from the size factor and thats my point. Because of the size advantage he feels that he cant fight his normal way against these big WW's. I have always hoped that one day he would grow into the weight but he never really has, atleast not when you compare him to the other WW's. Even when I watch the natrual 140 pounders I think they all are clearly bigger then him.

I think Cotto pretty much did like Floyd has done in some WW fights when he fought Cotto. The only difference was that Cotto threw them in combos and is a heavier puncher then Floyd but he was pretty much on his bike all night. Now we figure that may had to do with the plaster but who knows. For the hundredth time, I have always said that I have hardly ever seen anyone improve the way Cotto & Pac has but no one ever hears when I say that. I think Cotto is a beast and clearly one of the best fighters in the game. Alot of people thought that Mosley beat Cotto but I thought Cotto won. Im not a hater or nor do I always take up for Floyd. Im very fair. You guys just hear what you want to hear

[2501]

You are so wrong and never hear what I say like alot of other guys on here. Unlike other Floyd fans, I will rip him like I do anyone. I just think that he is the best fighter in the game but I do think he runs alot in some of his fights and is boring. However, I think pretty much 90% of that just comes from the size factor and thats my point. Because of the size advantage he feels that he cant fight his normal way against these big WW's. I have always hoped that one day he would grow into the weight but he never really has, atleast not when you compare him to the other WW's. Even when I watch the natrual 140 pounders I think they all are clearly bigger then him.

I think Cotto pretty much did like Floyd has done in some WW fights when he fought Cotto. The only difference was that Cotto threw them in combos and is a heavier puncher then Floyd but he was pretty much on his bike all night. Now we figure that may had to do with the plaster but who knows. For the hundredth time, I have always said that I have hardly ever seen anyone improve the way Cotto & Pac has but no one ever hears when I say that. I think Cotto is a beast and clearly one of the best fighters in the game. Alot of people thought that Mosley beat Cotto but I thought Cotto won. Im not a hater or nor do I always take up for Floyd. Im very fair. You guys just hear what you want to hear

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Cotto was on the run while Shane stood toe to toe with him all night. That was the difference

[DLT]

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He was on the run at the end of that fight, just like I think he was on the run at the end of the N'Dou fight. He wasnt on the run because of fear of whats coming back like against Margarito, he was on the run because of fatigue and it being a tough fight. Thats one problem I have with him. I dont think his stamina is at the elite level

[Easy-E]

I dont get why so many people on here always do stuff like that with guys like Cotto, Pac, and so on? So what Cotto is fighting Clottey. What is so special about that? He's the same exact size. That isnt anything special. When Cotto was at 140 is was far bigger then anyone at that weight. He was always a true WW fighting at 140. Who should he fear? Now he's at WW and he's the same size as everyone. If he's really good then who should he fear? Its so ****** for people to always compare that kind of stuff to Floyd. Name 1 reason why Cotto should fear these guys? What, because there good? Its not the same as Floyd at all. These guys are naturaly much bigger then Floyd. Him fighting those guys is not the same as Cotto fighting them at all. Cotto is not in his 4th weight division unaturaly. He's really still just in his very 1st division.

Are you guys seriously going to try to tell me that if Floyd was in his 1st division and a true full blown WW that he would be hesitatnt to fight a Margarito? He would destroy him. Why would he be hesitant to fight a Clottey? What would Clottey have for Floyd to fear if they were the same size P4P? He has nothing for Floyd to fear but they are not the same size P4P and there not even close. Again, if it was just about size then Floyd shouldve never even moved to WW. Its night & day when you compare Floyd with these guys. Tell Cotto or any of those WW's to go to there 4th & 5th divisions unaturaly and fight those guys. Then I would think its special. Why should you fear fighting guys your own size if youre a great fighter? I dont think these guys should get credit for that at all.

I feel the same way about guys like Pac & JMM. There resume is solid but every guy they fought was there own size. Why should they fear eachother or EM & MAB? Seriously why? Even when they move up in weight they still have always fought the same guys that they fought at the lower weights. JMM has a very good win over Diaz but Diaz just clearly loss to Campbell who is a solid fighter but definatly not a elite special fighter or anything. Pac moved up and fought David Diaz. Big deal. The Oscar win was great but it was for big time money, Oscar looked done, and he fought like a zombie. I will give Pac credit for the Hatton fight but again, Pac is far different from anyone else because he's got a freak body. He's huge even when he moves up. Floyd isnt like that. Pac right now will be just as big & strong if not bigger then anyone else at 140 and you know it. Is Floyd going to be just as big or stong as anyone at WW? Its not even close.

Pac or JMM still didnt fight someone like a Guzman who may have given them problems. They didnt fight a prime Casamayor or Chico. They didnt fight a prime Castillo or have to fight a Tszyu or Cotto at 140. There path is not nearly as hard as you guys try to make it out to be. They just fought eachother really and why should they fear eachother? Its the same for Cotto. Why should he fear a Margarito who to him looks slow & robotic and had no great wins when Cotto fought him. His only good win was against Cintron and a Clottey who was hurt but the Clottey fight probably made Cotto want to fight Margarito even more after he saw Clottey pick him apart. Even when Cotto fought Mosley the 1st thing Steward said was how much naturaly bigger & stronger Cotto looks compared to Shane. Why should Cotto fear him? Before that fight Shane wasnt even considered to be all that special anymore. Now why should Cotto fear Clottey or not fight him? He better fight him after he just got KO by Margarito. Once you lose like that then you have no choice but to fight the best to get your name back and again, why should he fear a guy his own size.

I swear peopel forget how much of a monster Chico was when Floyd fought him but Floyd had no fear because they were the same size. Castillo even made Floyd look like a little boy but Floyd moved up to fight him. Thats nothing special. When Cotto moves up and fights someone that he clearly is much smaller then, he will get major credit from me. Im not saying that he's a clown or anything. I think he's a great fighter but my point is that he shouldnt get extra credit for this. Its what he is supposed to do if he's great. Pac & JMM will always get a pass from the hispanic media & fans because he knows he can just fight the Mexican legends and get by on it even when there older, the same size, or even smaller. I just dont get what is so special about it

it is simple. people prefer pretty good fighters who are in exciting fights compared to great fighters who often make their opponents look like sub par fighters.