Joshua Clottey Plans To Bring The Fight To Miguel Cotto

[mellow_mood]

COTTO OVER CLOTTEY! 50 K.. WHOS IN?

[fdotorres]

c'mon mang, cotto was beating up marg easily... if he made it to the 12th round without taking any knees, he wouldve gotten the decision. but his stamina is not great because he was throwing too many combinations and got tired out.

cotto was already losing the fight by two points before taking the knees

margo barely landed anything on cotto

270 plaster shots is a lot if you ask me, specially if a single punch can break his nose

margto didn;t do this, he just followed cotto around the ring

he literally jogged while absorbing cotto's punches to land his own. that's the dumbest way of cutting the ring, but the most effective if you pull it off

you dont have to be exchanging punches to pressure. all clottey needs to do is be close enough to cotto so that cotto will throw punches or run.

clottey's not an inside fighter. if he gets close against a good body puncher and doesn't throw big shots, he'll get destroyed. that's why he shells up and counters

he dont need to do it the same why as margo, but he will do it his own way

you haven't been able to explain how he'll do it. he said he will pressure him, but he's never done that to any fighter in his entire career. it's just not his style

its possible, cotto is open for the upper cut and clottey has a mean uppercut

a mean uppercut that hasn't been able to KO good boxer, even if they're lightweights and junior welters fighting 7-12 pounds beyond their natural weight

but if clottey is smart, he'll expend less energy than cotto.

his style requires less energy than cotto's, but even that way, he has stamina problems. that's what happens when you're so big in muscles and fight weighting 170 pounds... you get tired even while doing just counters. that's my point. if he always tires himself while doing not much, he won't be able to pressure ANY boxer, let alone cotto

[Pullcounter]

cotto was already losing the fight by two points before taking the knees

cuz he ran out of gas 2-3 rounds before... doesnt look good for the clottey fight

270 plaster shots is a lot if you ask me, specially if a single punch can break his nose

proof that margo used plaster???

he literally jogged while absorbing cotto's punches to land his own. that's the dumbest way of cutting the ring, but the most effective if you pull it off

thats still not cutting off the ring

clottey's not an inside fighter. if he gets close against a good body puncher and doesn't throw big shots, he'll get destroyed. that's why he shells up and counters

he doesnt need to get inside

you haven't been able to explain how he'll do it. he said he will pressure him, but he's never done that to any fighter in his entire career. it's just not his style

i explained it plenty of times before... he dont have to exchange to pressure, he just needs to be close enough that cotto expends energy by throwing punches or moving away

a mean uppercut that hasn't been able to KO good boxer, even if they're lightweights and junior welters fighting 7-12 pounds beyond their natural weight

yeah, i was just testing u with that one... its likely cotto goes 12 and wins by a close margin.

his style requires less energy than cotto's, but even that way, he has stamina problems. that's what happens when you're so big in muscles and fight weighting 170 pounds... you get tired even while doing just counters. that's my point. if he always tires himself while doing not much, he won't be able to pressure ANY boxer, let alone cotto

like I said before, pressure isnt just exchanging punches.

[dondi330]

DUHHHH. Mosley smashed the guy that smashed Cotto, thats why. I thought the first fight was a draw anyways, not like Cotto won decisivley or anything. but I dont see Cotto winning, so its Mosley-Clottey for undisputed WW king!!

Its funny but you say "I thoughy it was a draw" like it means something...lol
Like because u felt it was a draw...he must fight Mosley....Nice fight but Cotto AGAIN has nothing to prove against Mosley....Im more interested in fights we have not seen yet....Clottey, Berto, Hatton or Pac and so on.

[fdotorres]

cuz he ran out of gas 2-3 rounds before... doesnt look good for the clottey fight

yeah, cuz clottey has comparable punch output and pressure to marg's and will bust his nose, mouth and body early? i doubt it

proof that margo used plaster???

isn't common sense enough? unless you think that margo's team put the knuckles on both hands by accident, you should know that this wasn't the first time doing it

thats still not cutting off the ring

how come? impeding someone to fight anywhere except in a corner is cutting the ring

he doesnt need to get inside

of course not. if he does, he'll get battered, but with his style, there's no way for him to pressure effectively from the outside

i explained it plenty of times before... he dont have to exchange to pressure, he just needs to be close enough that cotto expends energy by throwing punches or moving away

he will punch or walk away wasting less energy than in the mosley fight. since clottey has the same or even worse stamina issues, he won't do anything that mosley didn't do. plus he's a counter puncher, not a finisher, so a KO won't happen at the latter rounds

yeah, i was just testing u with that one... its likely cotto goes 12 and wins by a close margin.

yeah, this will surely go to decision. i just don't see it so close. cotto 116-112, no closer than that IMO

like I said before, pressure isnt just exchanging punches.

of course not, but it certainly isn't putting your gloves up, standing in front of a guy and waiting for him to throw, which is what clottey always does

[mazukamba2904]

Do you think that the Floyd Mayweather Jr, Zab Judah was close? Zab won 5RDS? The only close fight that we can debate on is the first Castillo fight but again Floyd gave him a rematch, the one that supposedly beat him the first time. Why would Floyd fight a man again that he felt could possibly beat him? If he was a coward and ducked guys he would have took that gift win and ran with it but instead he showed that he could beat him.

On top of that Floyd was injured in the first fight and it was still close. Ducking the best guys? He fought the Champs at 147 at his time Judah/Baldomir to become the recognized 147 Champ? You mean to say that he didn't fight who YOU considered to be the best.

People rag on Baldomir but he is the guy who got Clottey so frustrated that Clottey head butted him & got disqualified. Then he went to upset Judah to become the recognized champ at Welter? I'm tired of you guys saying "He didn't fight the best" but in actuality he did, it just wasn't Cotto/Margarito/Williams at the time. If any of them held that Lineal title guaranteed Floyd would have got at em.

Floyd knew he lost the first fight with castillo because under estimated Castillo, like Lenox vs Hasim but Lenox got KO but in the second fight Floyd came strong like Lenox and won easy, and the Zab fight he lost 5 rounds to 7 listen man Floyd was good, very good but when you know he lost some fights you cant say he was better than the rest, you give credit to Floyd for some fights that wasn't that good like DLH, Gatty, Baldomir the only good ones he had was with Corrales, Castillo 1, Zab and Hatton, he had the chance to go after Cotto, Williams and Mosley but he didn't want the risk, blame it to the money say what you want but you know Floyd lost some he ain't the best ever, he was good......

[mazukamba2904]

Cottos overrated body attack doesnt work on CLASS A fighters

Did Cottos body attack hurt:

Mosley? NOPE
Margarito? NOPE
Clottey?...I doubt it will, especially while he has better defense than both

LOL @ Cotto only fighting 3 Class A fighters

how many class a fighters, Floyd haves in his record DLH 1 Hatton 2 Corrales 3 Zab 4 well I guess Floyd wins by one WAOOOOOOO

[Osirus022]

he never called him out because he has never called ANYONE out in his WHOLE career

oh, and no one would like to trade with a guy that throws more than a hundred plastered punches per round, specially your mayflower. heck, he didn't even train with an old de la hoya, just with little ricky

lmfaooooo

[Osirus022]

Not picking on you but, people needs to stop talking out of their asses for a minute here. Instead of just saying, well CLottey is tough and have a very good defense and decent beard, thats why he aint getting KO, they should analize the style first. Simple Cotto is the best body puncher in the game, 1 of Clotteys deficiencies is he dont take body punches well, and he is open for body shots, do to his high guard. Clottey gasses put fast what body punches do? gasses you out. SO that means if Cotto hits Clottey enough to the body early hell have a big chance of KOing Clottey in the later rounds with body shots do to accumulation of punishment, and thats a high percentage.

So Cotto koing Clottey is more likely to happend than the opposite. Why? Becuase Clottey doesnt have KO power, and Cotto have a decent beard. Clotteys last KO past the 5th round was in 2003, he has never had a KO pass 6 rounds, and he have never KO any of the top opposition he have faced!!!!!!

Agreed to that!!!

[Osirus022]

First off you didnt own anybody so get the hell on with that bull****!

What I'm saying is that Clottey will not get hit with half of that **** Margorito...Thats a fact...You can sit here and tea bag Cotto's nuts all ya want...but the fact still remains was Cotto was beat down by a limited fighter in Margorito...What makes you think Clottey will sit back and let Cotto tee-off on him without returning some fire power?....And so what...WHO GIVES IF FUCK IF HE HASNT KO PEOPLE!(apparently you since you bring that pointless topic up)

Not to mention Cotto is open for the uppercut which Clottey throws a nice uppercut...

P.S just because you type a repsonse doesnt mean you own anything....You need to practice what you preach...You think before you speak!

... just throwin it out there... if u have seen enough of Cotto's firghts, since he fought Mosley and beat him without going to the body + took the lessons learned from both last previous fast fighters, he switched up his style of bein WAY 2 fast than he was PLUS not goin to the body as much as he did before, you seen the fight wit Gomez? how fast he was? even Lampley said it, if im not mistakin he was the one who brought it up after i noticed, and he was gettin tired too quick because he wasnt adjusted to that style, then came Margarito, he did the same thing, not throw enough to the body @ all and throwing lighling speed punches which was one of the reasons why he started losing his legs early. But once he came back and started back wit Jennings, you noticed that he took his time with everything, didnt force nothin n went back to his old style, with that said it tells me that he is back to the old Miguel Cotto. I hope the adjustments he made lately can get him back and running, i am not sayin Clottey is a bad fighter or weak because that would make me look dumb, but u cant say either that Clottey is unstoppable because he has never been stopped (Margarito Plaster doesnt count) just like Cotto lost he can lose 2... we will just have 2 see in the ring.