Joshua Clottey Plans To Bring The Fight To Miguel Cotto

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  • fdotorres
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    #211
    Originally posted by Ray Ray
    And what makes you think Cotto wont fade? If I remember correctly he faded in the Mosley fight and faded in the Margorito fight.

    Clottey doesnt throw combo's!?!?! Have you even seen a Clottey fight at all...for you to sit here and say he doesnt throws combos makes people wonder becausef thats not true at all....Trust me if Cotto eats enough of those right hands leads he will crumble...Thats a fact!

    Thats were you're wrong at...KO is not a make or break factor...RING SMARTS is the key factor...Whoever can apply their game plan is the guy that will come out on top...POWER AINT GOT **** TO DO WITH IT!
    if i remember correctly, mosley is a world class pressure fighter, and he himself admitted that cotto surprised him when he got outboxed

    clottey has faded against way lower competition, so don't even try comparing their lack of stamina without considering the quality of the opponents that they've faded against

    i'm talking about combinations with enough power behind them to actually take a guy down. clottey doesn't do those.

    wanna talk about facts? here's one: judah, a 140 pounder with a weak chin, ate enough of those right hands and didn't get knocked down even one time. heck, even corrales, a LIGHTWEIGHT, ate countless punches and endured against clottey

    those are his facts: he can't even KO a lightweight that got destroyed in the biggest war in recent boxing

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      #212
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
      Floyd is retired, end of story.
      i chuckled

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        #213
        Originally posted by fdotorres
        if i remember correctly, mosley is a world class pressure fighter, and he himself admitted that cotto surprised him when he got outboxed

        clottey has faded against way lower competition, so don't even try comparing their lack of stamina without considering the quality of the opponents that they've faded against

        i'm talking about combinations with enough power behind them to actually take a guy down. clottey doesn't do those.

        wanna talk about facts? here's one: judah, a 140 pounder with a weak chin, ate enough of those right hands and didn't get knocked down even one time. heck, even corrales, a LIGHTWEIGHT, ate countless punches and endured against clottey

        those are his facts: he can't even KO a lightweight that got destroyed in the biggest war in recent boxing
        So now Mosley is a world class pressure fighter? WOW!

        You cant sit here and make excuses for Cotto but downplay Clottey...**** doesnt work like that homie...FACT is they both got tired...So deal with...Cotto is pro athlete so stop making excuses...Its something to be taken into consideration.

        I love how you forgot to mention when Clottey was beating the **** out of Chico...Chico spit out his mouth piece to save himself...I love how left out that part...You do know Judah was well on his way out before he lied to the doctor...So tell the whole fucking story instead of the lil pieces to fit your agenda!

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          #214
          Originally posted by Ray Ray
          So now Mosley is a world class pressure fighter? WOW!

          You cant sit here and make excuses for Cotto but downplay Clottey...**** doesnt work like that homie...FACT is they both got tired...So deal with...Cotto is pro athlete so stop making excuses...Its something to be taken into consideration.

          I love how you forgot to mention when Clottey was beating the **** out of Chico...Chico spit out his mouth piece to save himself...I love how left out that part...You do know Judah was well on his way out before he lied to the doctor...So tell the whole fucking story instead of the lil pieces to fit your agenda!
          mosley isn't a world class pressure fighter? then why did he pressured the two most recognized welterweight pressure fighters (cotto and marg)???

          lol why are you mentioning things from corrales? he's a freaking lightweight and clottey couldn't knock him out, that's pathetic

          oh and i never said judah and corrales weren't hurt. i said that clottey couldn't knock a lightweight and a junior welterweight out, and the fact that you're just making up excuses for his failure to do so makes it even more funnier

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          • RRICAN
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            #215
            i hope he brings the pressure so cotto can outbox him like he did to mosley. it will be a wider margin in a ud

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              #216
              Originally posted by fdotorres
              if i remember correctly, mosley is a world class pressure fighter, and he himself admitted that cotto surprised him when he got outboxed

              clottey has faded against way lower competition, so don't even try comparing their lack of stamina without considering the quality of the opponents that they've faded against

              i'm talking about combinations with enough power behind them to actually take a guy down. clottey doesn't do those.

              wanna talk about facts? here's one: judah, a 140 pounder with a weak chin, ate enough of those right hands and didn't get knocked down even one time. heck, even corrales, a LIGHTWEIGHT, ate countless punches and endured against clottey

              those are his facts: he can't even KO a lightweight that got destroyed in the biggest war in recent boxing
              Clottey held his own against Margarito with a broken hand but Cotto got chased around the ring by Margarito & got beat up then down.

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                #217
                Originally posted by fdotorres
                mosley isn't a world class pressure fighter? then why did he pressured the two most recognized welterweight pressure fighters (cotto and marg)???

                lol why are you mentioning things from corrales? he's a freaking lightweight and clottey couldn't knock him out, that's pathetic

                oh and i never said judah and corrales weren't hurt. i said that clottey couldn't knock a lightweight and a junior welterweight out, and the fact that you're just making up excuses for his failure to do so makes it even more funnier
                Start watching film before you talk...I'm only telling you what actually happened...Whats even funnier is how you chose to ignore Cotto's stamina problems as well

                When he well on his way to fininsh off Chico...Chico spit out his mouth piece(not once but twice)..FACT!



                You can sit there and say I'm looking like a damn fool all you want but the fact still remains...Clottey is going to shock you fools....

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  Clottey held his own against Margarito with a broken hand but Cotto got chased around the ring by Margarito & got beat up then down.
                  He's overlooking all of that yet the ******* wants to clown on me thinking I dont know what the hell I'm talking about!

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                    #219
                    I hear you Fam

                    Originally posted by Ray Ray
                    He's overlooking all of that yet the ******* wants to clown on me thinking I dont know what the hell I'm talking about!
                    Sometimes on here you feel like your debating/arguing with your lil sister or brother. That's my thing, Facts are facts and they don't try to see it because as far as they are concerned their favorite fighter has no flaws and can do NO wrong. The fact is that Miguel Cotto is a good puncher but that's about it. He can be durable against guys he can intimidate with his power but guys he can't back down, he starts to back peddle & scramble. We all witnessed it in the Mosley fight and most convincingly the Margarito fight. Once Margarito took away Cotto's punch and aggression, Cotto hit the ten speed and peddled his ass off.

                    Cotto is only dominate against guys who can't take his punch but once you take that away from him then he is all yours. If Mosley would have pressured him the first half of the fight instead of trying to out box the younger Cotto I'm sure Mosley would have won. That's why Margarito trumped Cotto because both depend mostly on their power & pressure advantages & Margarito was just tougher. If Clottey comes to the ring with his A game I am confident he can beat Miguel Cotto.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-12-2009, 01:59 PM.

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                      #220
                      yeah all of that sounds nice, but you have to compare margacheato to clottey physically clottey isn't as tall and doesn't throw punches and do not have the power (punches) like plaster guy did.(with or w/out plaster) one thing he has going is his stamina. if cotto doesnt train like he is suppose to he might be in trouble in the last couple of rounds

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