i think it's sickening how someone on the internet can critisize cotto for

[MANGLER]

I agree wit the thread but cats need to let this **** go. The man has his next belt is about to face Clottey. We know he ain't a *****.

[oldgringo]

I tend to think most aren't bashing him, merely pointing out that in their view, yes he did quit, for whatever reason.

Most, from what I've seen, are still supportive of his decision.

Saying he quit isn't bashing, just telling it like they seen it.

The ones calling him "coward" and names of the like, now thats bashing.

Let me say it this way then.

Some people may not be explicitly bashing Cotto, although some do, but they still undermine (whether they're aware of it or not) the performance that Cotto gave in the ring that night. The word quit isn't necessarily what bothers me, it's the negative connotation behind it. It's a loaded word. You could replace it with gave up, stopped, forfeit, whatever. It's all implying that Cotto didn't give 100% of what he had that night and that is garbage in my opinion. It undermines the great fight that the fans were given. For a long time after the fight, even now, some people are more interested in trying to point out that Cotto is a quitter or whatever instead of appreciating the great fight Margarito and Cotto gave us. Saying that it's a fact and all of that just reinforces that. If you really appreciated the fight and the fighters you wouldn't even waste your time.

I think most people can or should be able tell the difference between someone who quits and someone who just doesn't have anything left to give. Someone who can acknowledge that they are a beaten man. When Erik Morales was counted out against Manny Pacquiao, I don't think he quit, I think he just knew he was a beaten fighter with nothing left to give. He went out and gave it his best, but he was being battered and saw that there was no reason to keep taking punishment. The same thing happened much earlier in his career, only he was on the other end of things, against Daniel Zaragoza. Zaragoza went out and gave it his best, but he was overmatched against a young lion. Saying he quit is undermining and disrespectful in my opinion.

Mario Cawley quit against Hasim Rahman

O'Neill Bell quit against Tomasz Adamek

They didn't even try or experience any real adversity in their fights. I think there is a clear difference.

[Spacey1991]

Good post Larry!

[Pullcounter]

what some of you have to realize is that quitter is not the same as coward.

cotto is a quitter, but not a coward

[larryx]

Man, you PR's are sensative hu? Did you even read my post? Where did I insult Cotto?

To the first poster, Marg got caught cheating, he was suspended for it, what else do you want? A life time ban? He's not the first to do it and won't be the last.

Is Guerrero a Mexican or Mexican/ American? That's why Mexicans don't always accept the Mexican/American the same way they do their own. It's ****** soemtimes but it's their culture and I'm open minded enough to respect it.

To the second poster, READ MY POST. Man, I swear you PR's get your panties in a ruffle so easily.

oh and fyi...im black not puerto rican

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Let me say it this way then.

Some people may not be explicitly bashing Cotto, although some do, but they still undermine (whether they're aware of it or not) the performance that Cotto gave in the ring that night. The word quit isn't necessarily what bothers me, it's the negative connotation behind it. It's a loaded word. You could replace it with gave up, stopped, forfeit, whatever. It's all implying that Cotto didn't give 100% of what he had that night and that is garbage in my opinion. It undermines the great fight that the fans were given. For a long time after the fight, even now, some people are more interested in trying to point out that Cotto is a quitter or whatever instead of appreciating the great fight Margarito and Cotto gave us. Saying that it's a fact and all of that just reinforces that. If you really appreciated the fight and the fighters you wouldn't even waste your time.

I think most people can or should be able tell the difference between someone who quits and someone who just doesn't have anything left to give. Someone who can acknowledge that they are a beaten man. When Erik Morales was counted out against Manny Pacquiao, I don't think he quit, I think he just knew he was a beaten fighter with nothing left to give. He went out and gave it his best, but he was being battered and saw that there was no reason to keep taking punishment. The same thing happened much earlier in his career, only he was on the other end of things, against Daniel Zaragoza. Zaragoza went out and gave it his best, but he was overmatched against a young lion. Saying he quit is undermining and disrespectful in my opinion.

Mario Cawley quit against Hasim Rahman

O'Neill Bell quit against Tomasz Adamek

They didn't even try or experience any real adversity in their fights. I think there is a clear difference.

Good post but I think the poster you answered had it right. No matter how you look at it he did "quit" but that's not saying he didn't put 100% into it.

I respect Cotto because he's a hell of a fighter. It's just that some people want to see a fighter get knocked out, don't know why, culture, whatever but it's the way it is.

[larryx]

Good post Larry!

thanks homie.............

[larryx]

moron nothing can change the fact a PRIME Cotto quit he said it in this video out of his own mouth!!!!


if you quit what does that make you drum rolllllllllllllllllllllllll a QUITTER YOU AND EVERYBODY SAYING HE DID NOT QUIT IS A STRIGHT GRADE A MORON

you r a ...drumroll.....couch potatoe judging someone getting repeatetly punched in the face while you sit at home stuffing your face

[oldgringo]

Good post but I think the poster you answered had it right. No matter how you look at it he did "quit" but that's not saying he didn't put 100% into it.

I respect Cotto because he's a hell of a fighter. It's just that some people want to see a fighter get knocked out, don't know why, culture, whatever but it's the way it is.

That's cool. I just happen to think that there is no neutral way to say the word quit. You and I both know that people tend to think less of a "quitter" in society. It's a loaded word that carries a negative connotation. I think it's unfair to regard Cotto like this.

I know what you're saying about wanting to see the most dramatic finishes in a fight possible, but in a high action fight like Margarito/Cotto, it's more constructive to appreciate what we were actually given as opposed to what didn't happen.

[solo20]

Let me say it this way then.

Some people may not be explicitly bashing Cotto, although some do, but they still undermine (whether they're aware of it or not) the performance that Cotto gave in the ring that night. The word quit isn't necessarily what bothers me, it's the negative connotation behind it. It's a loaded word. You could replace it with gave up, stopped, forfeit, whatever. It's all implying that Cotto didn't give 100% of what he had that night and that is garbage in my opinion. It undermines the great fight that the fans were given. For a long time after the fight, even now, some people are more interested in trying to point out that Cotto is a quitter or whatever instead of appreciating the great fight Margarito and Cotto gave us. Saying that it's a fact and all of that just reinforces that. If you really appreciated the fight and the fighters you wouldn't even waste your time.

I think most people can or should be able tell the difference between someone who quits and someone who just doesn't have anything left to give. Someone who can acknowledge that they are a beaten man. When Erik Morales was counted out against Manny Pacquiao, I don't think he quit, I think he just knew he was a beaten fighter with nothing left to give. He went out and gave it his best, but he was being battered and saw that there was no reason to keep taking punishment. The same thing happened much earlier in his career, only he was on the other end of things, against Daniel Zaragoza. Zaragoza went out and gave it his best, but he was overmatched against a young lion. Saying he quit is undermining and disrespectful in my opinion.

Mario Cawley quit against Hasim Rahman

O'Neill Bell quit against Tomasz Adamek

They didn't even try or experience any real adversity in their fights. I think there is a clear difference.

doest matter how you surger coat it they quit

definition of quit
to stop trying, struggling, or the like; accept or acknowledge defeat.
to cease from doing something; stop

all i see is excuses from you and every one esl