Mayweather vs Marquez at 147 this year!

[egreezy]

No reference to Cotto or Clottey, lol?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I am on a business trip that happens to land me in Las Vegas for a lay over. I go to place a wager at the Palms and who do I see in front of me Mr. Leonard Ellerbe. I have seen him before numerous times in Vegas for Floyd's fights and in Vegas. He has always been nice to me and a stand up guy. I asked him these questions about Pretty Boy Floyd's career and these are his answers. Remember I of course am not a reporter just a fan talking with him..


Question 1. I heard Floyd is going to come back and fight Marquez at 140 is that true.

Answer. Floyd hasn't fought at 140 in a long time and thats not his weight class anymore. Where did you here that?

My response.. Boxingscene

Question 2. So is he going to fight Marquez at 147 or is there another fight or a tune up fight?

Answer. While laughing Floyd doesn't need any tune up fight. Floyd doesn't need to fight he is retired. What else did you here?

My response.. That he should come out of retirement against the winner of Pac/Hatton or Cotto or Marquez. We all know Floyd is great but how great people need to remember.

His response.. All of these fighters are good fighters that are beating up against each other.

Question 3. So Am I going to see Floyd fight this year?

His response.. Laughter

My conclusion.. Floyd is fighting this year against whoever is the biggest name with the biggest money. Floyd has options his options are in this order

1. Hatton If Hatton beats Pacman there wouldn't be a bigger money fight in the world. Hatton would have immediate respect and a definate top 5 P4P with a win over Pacman. Maybe even Hatton's Golden Boy camp offers Floyd 20 to 25 million to fight in the UK.

2. Marquez. With JMM calling him out and willing to fight at 147 to prove his legacy he must beat Pacman convincingly or beat the unbeatable PBF. Golden Boy wants the fight but can they lure Floyd with 12 million. I don't think so.

3. Pacman.If Pacman beats Hatton. A reach. Pacman is the biggest name in boxing as the active P4P #1 fighter. His fight with Floyd will definately be the best fight within the last 15 years. When was the last time we have seen the top 2 P4P fighters go at it. The biggest problem is not the money its the Arum/Haymon fued. Like Floyd and Pacman these 2 are the the biggest influence in the sport along with Golden Boy.

4. Mosley. If Sugar Shane secures a match with Cotto and beats him. Sugar Shanes stock goes through the roof. An aging fighter beating the best in his division would give Shane the Bernardisque role. This fight can happen if the Cotto fight can get made and Mosley wins. The money will be available and would give us a fight we have waited for 4 the last 8 years.

a couple of things;



so ellerbee laughs at you and asks you where you heard these rumors and you throw boxingscene under the bus



ellerbee tells you floyd is retired, isnt going to fight anyone and you start a thread titled floyd-marquez at 147 this year?

[boxaholic]

No reference to Cotto or Clottey, lol?

Even though I would love those fights Cotto would have been 5th and Clottey 7th of what I would like. Cotto is something I wanted and maybe could have happened before Plasterito beat him. With Arum as the promoter I just don't see that Bob would put Cotto ahead of Pacman. Not to mention Cotto is a bigger risk than Pacman at 147 arguabely. Clottey just doesn't generate that much money for Floyd to come out of retirement. But I did think it cuz I like both fighters.

[boxaholic]

a couple of things;



so ellerbee laughs at you and asks you where you heard these rumors and you throw boxingscene under the bus



ellerbee tells you floyd is retired, isnt going to fight anyone and you start a thread titles floyd-marquez at 147 this year?

Again why would I through Boxingscene under the bus. This is a sight that I am a part of as a fan. What forum fans say is completely different from what Boxingscene reports. I never said Boxingscene reported ****.

Ellerbe laughed at the idea that I expected for him to say yeah he is coming back vs So and So. Yeah I thought my question was good and got what I expected a laugh or a no.

The thread title Floyd vs Marquez at 147 makes alot better sense than what other fights people put up. funny stuff like Klitchko vs Mallinaggi or Pwill vs Calzaghe.

[parrinkinpau]

i talked to nacho beristain yesterday and he said they want to fight floyd next but it will have to be at 143 at the most

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Again why would I through Boxingscene under the bus. This is a sight that I am a part of as a fan. What forum fans say is completely different from what Boxingscene reports. I never said Boxingscene reported ****.

Ellerbe laughed at the idea that I expected for him to say yeah he is coming back vs So and So. Yeah I thought my question was good and got what I expected a laugh or a no.

The thread title Floyd vs Marquez at 147 makes alot better sense than what other fights people put up. funny stuff like Klitchko vs Mallinaggi or Pwill vs Calzaghe.

well, since you stated in your original post that you're not a reporter, you get a pass


all im sayin is that ellerbee probably doesnt differentiate between forum threads and news releases...



as for the title, i thought ellerbee had given you something a little bit more concrete than a laugh to think that marquez vs floyd would happen

[boxaholic]

i talked to nacho beristain yesterday and he said they want to fight floyd next but it will have to be at 143 at the most

LOL. 143 would be nice but Marquez is calling out Floyd not the other way around. Nacho lost alot of my respect after that Freddie Roach fiasco.

[boxaholic]

well, since you stated in your original post that you're not a reporter, you get a pass


all im sayin is that ellerbee probably doesnt differentiate between forum threads and news releases...



as for the title, i thought ellerbee had given you something a little bit more concrete than a laugh to think that marquez vs floyd would happen

yeah I wish he would have told me Mayweather is fighting Marquez at 147 at the MGM on September 13 2009. We will also have Cotto vs Mosley as the undercard with Hamed vs Morales at 175. To bad that didn't happen.

[Pullcounter]

I am on a business trip that happens to land me in Las Vegas for a lay over. I go to place a wager at the Palms and who do I see in front of me Mr. Leonard Ellerbe. I have seen him before numerous times in Vegas for Floyd's fights and in Vegas. He has always been nice to me and a stand up guy. I asked him these questions about Pretty Boy Floyd's career and these are his answers. Remember I of course am not a reporter just a fan talking with him..


Question 1. I heard Floyd is going to come back and fight Marquez at 140 is that true.

Answer. Floyd hasn't fought at 140 in a long time and thats not his weight class anymore. Where did you here that?

My response.. Boxingscene

Question 2. So is he going to fight Marquez at 147 or is there another fight or a tune up fight?

Answer. While laughing Floyd doesn't need any tune up fight. Floyd doesn't need to fight he is retired. What else did you here?

My response.. That he should come out of retirement against the winner of Pac/Hatton or Cotto or Marquez. We all know Floyd is great but how great people need to remember.

His response.. All of these fighters are good fighters that are beating up against each other.

Question 3. So Am I going to see Floyd fight this year?

His response.. Laughter

My conclusion.. Floyd is fighting this year against whoever is the biggest name with the biggest money. Floyd has options his options are in this order

1. Hatton If Hatton beats Pacman there wouldn't be a bigger money fight in the world. Hatton would have immediate respect and a definate top 5 P4P with a win over Pacman. Maybe even Hatton's Golden Boy camp offers Floyd 20 to 25 million to fight in the UK.

2. Marquez. With JMM calling him out and willing to fight at 147 to prove his legacy he must beat Pacman convincingly or beat the unbeatable PBF. Golden Boy wants the fight but can they lure Floyd with 12 million. I don't think so.

3. Pacman.If Pacman beats Hatton. A reach. Pacman is the biggest name in boxing as the active P4P #1 fighter. His fight with Floyd will definately be the best fight within the last 15 years. When was the last time we have seen the top 2 P4P fighters go at it. The biggest problem is not the money its the Arum/Haymon fued. Like Floyd and Pacman these 2 are the the biggest influence in the sport along with Golden Boy.

4. Mosley. If Sugar Shane secures a match with Cotto and beats him. Sugar Shanes stock goes through the roof. An aging fighter beating the best in his division would give Shane the Bernardisque role. This fight can happen if the Cotto fight can get made and Mosley wins. The money will be available and would give us a fight we have waited for 4 the last 8 years.

good questions, but they dont tell us anything that we dont already know... here are better quetions:

1) Are you serious about $20 million guarantee in a recession??? seriously?

2) Will floyd accept anything lower?

3) Why is a fight with JMM preferable over a fight with Mosley or Cotto???

4) you know floyd gets no credit for beating JMM right? right?

5) you know that jmm is not a draw and had to fight diaz in his hometown right???

[boxaholic]

good questions, but they dont tell us anything that we dont already know... here are better quetions:

1) Are you serious about $20 million guarantee in a recession??? seriously?

2) Will floyd accept anything lower?

3) Why is a fight with JMM preferable over a fight with Mosley or Cotto???

4) you know floyd gets no credit for beating JMM right? right?

5) you know that jmm is not a draw and had to fight diaz in his hometown right???

He didn't mention anything about JMM. I mentioned it to him. I didn't mention any money situation neither did he. But I will answer those questions for you.

1) You get what you negotiate not deserve in boxing.
2) Why should he people are calling him out not the other way around.
3) JMM is suppose to be the top P4P fighter in Dumb ass Kellerman's view and if Golden Boy would rather him kick JMM's ass vs Mosley for 20 million why not.
4) That fight would be nice. Floyd vs the winner of Cotto/Mosley. That is a fans dream but Cotto and Mosley have to fight each other and Floyd if not retired should fight the winner. Pac/Hatton bring more money to the table than Cotto/Mosley. I would definately rather see Mosley/Cotto winner.
5) Who cares if Golden Boy gaurentee 20 mil.