Barrera Vs. Marquez Scorecards Were Atrocious

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  • El Dominicano
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    #21
    MAB won that fight, I seen it plenty of times...Not once did JMM land a combination without getting hit with one in return, then you got to give it to the fighter who controlled the pace/ got a KD that wasn't counted
    Last edited by El Dominicano; 03-05-2009, 08:06 PM.

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    • warp1432
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      #22
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      Im not trying to convince you, you just saw the facts that Barrera outlanded Marquez, but you still say Marquez outlanded Barrera.
      Do you think Castillo out landed Mayweather?

      If you want to be "technical" then Barrera out landed him all together, but in terms of shots that actually mattered for winning the rounds, Marquez landed them. Even then I'm still not convinced Barrera out landed him even with small shots.

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      • Bhopreign
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        #23
        Originally posted by warp1432
        Do you think Castillo out landed Mayweather?

        If you want to be "technical" then Barrera out landed him all together, but in terms of shots that actually mattered for winning the rounds, Marquez landed them. Even then I'm still not convinced Barrera out landed him even with small shots.
        Yes in the first fight its clear Castillo outlanded Floyd, you first said "it seemed like Marquez landed more" now all of a sudden you have the most accurate recollection? Again not trying to convince you many people had the fight a draw or either way.

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        • warp1432
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          #24
          Originally posted by Devil Man
          MAB won that fight, I seen it plenty of times...Not once did JMM land a combination without getting hit with one in return, did you got to give it to the fighter who controlled the pace/ got a KD that wasn't counted
          He was hit once in return...in the actual combination. It was a one shot counter while, JMM was landing the combinations still. Barrera always didn't counter him. It made Barrera game, but it was not enough. For every one shot counter Barrera landed, Marquez landed like a 3 punch combination.

          Then people will justify it because Barrera "rolled with the punches" He was still getting hit flush in the face. That counts and people are not paying attention to that.

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          • sunny31
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            #25
            I thought marquez definitely won, but fight was closer than judges had it, think I had 115-111 marquez been a while since I watched it though

            Yeah the one scorecard was terrible

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            • warp1432
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              #26
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              Yes in the first fight its clear Castillo outlanded Floyd, you first said "it seemed like Marquez landed more" now all of a sudden you have the most accurate recollection? Again not trying to convince you many people had the fight a draw or either way.
              I know, I'm just saying why I think Marquez won clearly. Marquez did land more. I don't go into the accurate recollection all at first. I'm pacing myself with more, so I have something to comeback with when if you make a counter point.

              What did you have Castillo-Mayweather though?

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              • letsgobrady
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                #27
                those Scorecards are Atrocious i thought it was a very close

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                • 2501
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                  #28
                  Thing about rolling punches is when you do, you're making it VERY difficult for the fight to be scored.

                  with that being said, even though i felt Marquez won, the cards WERE horrible. Marquez won that fight barely.

                  He's still awesome though.

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                  • duss
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    Here ya go eagle eye.

                    Total Punches Barrera Márquez
                    Landed 262 255
                    Thrown 737 663
                    thats not much of a big difference in punches landed what 7 punch differnece that just shows how close of a fight it was i had it as a draw both fought hard and both did good in perspective it could have gone either way because it was so close oh and im pretty sure that the numbers also showed that marquez landed a little bit more power punches than barrera did ( i just watched the whole fight on youtube and thats what it showed) does that mean thats why marquez won no because it was it was so close they should just have a rematch, end of story both great fighters

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                    • warp1432
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 2501
                      Thing about rolling punches is when you do, you're making it VERY difficult for the fight to be scored.
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                      I don't know why it does. Because it lessens the blow? He rolled the punches with some of them, but he was still getting hit and he'd get hit flush. It's not like Barrera was slipping or rolling the punches off his shoulders like Toney or Floyd does.

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