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  • Silencers
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    #21
    Originally posted by nycbigdogII
    Pac has admitted that he has 2 maybe three fights left... I can argue that PAC can strengthen his legacy even further by fighting others besides JMM... Yes, maybe it could help his legacy to fight and beat JMM AGAIN but in 50 years would people be impressed by PAC fighting and beating JMM again at 135 (be it for a lineal) who he has already beat or go elsewhere and fight say a Cotto or SSM??? Lets really think this through...

    Also, the Superbowl analogy does fit because its one game and no matter how close, the winner is the winner.... The following year does not count because the teams are not the same.... If the game was close, everyone accepts the winner and thats that...
    I'm not saying those other fights won't help his legacy, it'll help his checkbook even more. But people want to see a third fight between JMM and Pacquiao more so than a fight between Pacquiao and Cotto or Mosley right now, it's a good fight for boxing, and as I said, Marquez deserves 1 more fight against Pacquiao.

    Football and boxing are different. It's a different system.

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    • nycbigdogII
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      #22
      Originally posted by Silencers
      I'm not saying those other fights won't help his legacy, it'll help his checkbook even more. But people want to see a third fight between JMM and Pacquiao more so than a fight between Pacquiao and Cotto or Mosley right now, it's a good fight for boxing, and as I said, Marquez deserves 1 more fight against Pacquiao.

      Football and boxing are different. It's a different system.
      And, Im saying that legacy-wise as well as financially, JMM is LESS important than a fight with FMJ, Cotto, SSM... These fights are more dangerous than a JMM fight and will further ingrave PAC in the history books... I didnt say it wasnt good for boxing but it cant be argued that giving another fight, THREE at that, benifits JMM MUCH MUCH more than PAC... Why do you think the crying and whinning for a third fight with PAC are JMM nuthuggers???

      Sure, I also think that JMM deserves another shot at PAC, but Pac also deserves to see what else he can do after all he won already... Also, JMM is getting old, but whose fault is that??? Years went by and JMM went under the radar and spent his prime years in relative obscurity due to unsound managerial decisions... He isnt the first fighter to squander his youth and Im sure he wont be the last...

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        #23
        Originally posted by nycbigdogII
        And, Im saying that legacy-wise as well as financially, JMM is LESS important than a fight with FMJ, Cotto, SSM... These fights are more dangerous than a JMM fight and will further ingrave PAC in the history books... I didnt say it wasnt good for boxing but it cant be argued that giving another fight, THREE at that, benifits JMM MUCH MUCH more than PAC... Why do you think the crying and whinning for a third fight with PAC are JMM nuthuggers???

        Sure, I also think that JMM deserves another shot at PAC, but Pac also deserves to see what else he can do after all he won already... Also, JMM is getting old, but whose fault is that??? Years went by and JMM went under the radar and spent his prime years in relative obscurity due to unsound managerial decisions... He isnt the first fighter to squander his youth and Im sure he wont be the last...
        It's not only JMM nuthuggers, a lot of the people calling for a third fight between them are boxing fans period, not fans of either guys, of course the JMM nuthuggers will be more vocal with their calls for a third fight but it doesn't mean a lot of boxing fans don't want a third fight between them.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Silencers
          For some reason most people who don't want a 3rd fight between Marquez and Pacquiao are Pacquiao fans.
          I dunno about that...maybe yes. I always rooted against Pacquiao (when he fought Barrera in the second fight, when he fought Marquez in the second fight and when he fought Diaz). I wanted Marquez to win that second bout, and as I said in another thread...

          As a boxing fan, this fight should be made because of...the entertainment value it provides. Marquez and Pacquiao are two highly skilled, highly entertaining, evenly matched fighters. EVERYONE who wants to see a good match should want to see this. I do...BUT here's what I don't get...

          Why do people say that there should be a trilogy when in the first match there was a draw, and in the second Pacquiao won. The score, if there were a trilogy would be 1-0-1 for Pacquiao. If Marquez were to win the third match, then what? Is there gonna' be a demand for a fourth fight? That's what I don't understand.

          But I suppose I'm just nitpicking. I dunno. Their fights were a mess to score, though...

          The first fight was officially a draw.
          However, Pacquiao should've come out with a win due to the blunder of one of the judges.
          Yet some fans may say Marquez won the first fight.

          Same goes with the second one...a single knockdown made the difference. Shame.

          If a trilogy is what the fans want because they want to see a good fight, then by all means do it. If they want it because "there's some score to settle", then that's flawed. Because as far as official scorecards are concerned, Pacquiao bested Marquez...

          I'm rooting for Pacquiao to beat Hatton, but I'll switch to Marquez if this fight happens!

          BTW, what EXACTLY is the lineal title? Is it another term for the ring belt or what?
          Last edited by TintaBoricua; 03-05-2009, 08:18 AM.

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          • Silencers
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            #25
            Originally posted by ThePen2
            I dunno about that...maybe yes. I always rooted against Pacquiao (when he fought Barrera in the second fight, when he fought Marquez in the second fight and when he fought Diaz). I wanted Marquez to win that second bout, and as I said in another thread...

            As a boxing fan, this fight should be made because of...the entertainment value it provides. Marquez and Pacquiao are two highly skilled, highly entertaining, evenly matched fighters. EVERYONE who wants to see a good match should want to see this. I do...BUT here's what I don't get...

            Why do people say that there should be a trilogy when in the first match there was a draw, and in the second Pacquiao won. The score, if there were a trilogy would be 1-0-1 for Pacquiao. If Marquez were to win the third match, then what? Is there gonna' be a demand for a fourth fight? That's what I don't understand.

            But I suppose I'm just nitpicking. I dunno. Their fights were a mess to score, though...

            The first fight was officially a draw.
            However, Pacquiao should've come out with a win due to the blunder of one of the judges.
            Yet some fans may say Marquez won the first fight.

            Same goes with the secone one...a single knockdown made the difference. Shame.

            If a trilogy is what the fans want because they want to see a good fight, then by all means do it. If they want it because "there's some score to settle", then that's flawed. Because as far as official scorecards are concerned, Pacquiao bested Marquez...

            I'm rooting for Pacquiao to beat Hatton, but I'll switch to Marquez if this fight happens!
            If Marquez wins a third fight why not a fourth fight? Especially if the third fight is as entertaining as the first 2, it's been a great rivalry, no reason for them not to add to it.

            I just want to see a good fight with big implications for both fighters and Marquez deserves his shot.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Silencers
              If Marquez wins a third fight why not a fourth fight? Especially if the third fight is as entertaining as the first 2, it's been a great rivalry, no reason for them not to add to it.

              I just want to see a good fight with big implications for both fighters and Marquez deserves his shot.
              And, if Pac pulls off another close win??? People will be calling for a forth, fifth, and sixth, etc... etc...

              JMM already got his two chances but Pac has the w already, he needs to move on and scale the ATG even further... Even koing JMM wouldnt move him higher as would a win with one of the three I mentioned before...

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                #27
                Originally posted by nycbigdogII
                And, if Pac pulls off another close win??? People will be calling for a forth, fifth, and sixth, etc... etc...

                JMM already got his two chances but Pac has the w already, he needs to move on and scale the ATG even further... Even koing JMM wouldnt move him higher as would a win with one of the three I mentioned before...
                If Pacquiao wins a close third fight then I would stop calling for fights between them, then there truly is no point in a fourth fight.

                Knocking out Marquez would be a very big statement from Pacquiao, whether it's bigger than a win over the 3 you mentioned is debatable because of how good JMM is.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Silencers
                  If Pacquiao wins a close third fight then I would stop calling for fights between them, then there truly is no point in a fourth fight.

                  Knocking out Marquez would be a very big statement from Pacquiao, whether it's bigger than a win over the 3 you mentioned is debatable because of how good JMM is.
                  Dunno, just three /four months ago PAC winning against DLH was unfathamable, tkoing him, more than a PAC nuthuggers wet dream... But, now excuse after excuse... Jmm is 35, if he gets blasted out the ring, you really dont think the excuses will come???

                  As the poster above said, entertainment value, yes... But on a financial and legacy wise, I would pic pbf, cotto, SSM...

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Hard2kill
                    This is all about for JMM... Pac has nothing to gain in this fight...

                    If Pac beat JMM , then JMM is old and he will get no credit...

                    I say I boycott it...
                    In order for boxing to thrive,the best fighters need to fight each other to make the best fights,so thats a bit of a silly theory.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by nycbigdogII
                      Dunno, just three /four months ago PAC winning against DLH was unfathamable, tkoing him, more than a PAC nuthuggers wet dream... But, now excuse after excuse... Jmm is 35, if he gets blasted out the ring, you really dont think the excuses will come???

                      As the poster above said, entertainment value, yes... But on a financial and legacy wise, I would pic pbf, cotto, SSM...
                      Of course excuses will come, excuses come with every loss, you can bet there'll be excuses if he beats Cotto, Mosley or Mayweather. True boxing fans will know what the deal is, Marquez has been performing superbly lately, if he loses to Pacquiao there should be no excuses.

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