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  • #71
    Would prefer either of them against Dawson but I wouldnt object to a rematch even though it'll be **** to watch

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    • #72
      I think he should do it!!

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      • #73
        This fight was one of the worst and ugliest fights I have ever seen. I have zero desire to see a rematch and I hope Calzaghe sticks his ground about not fighting Hopkins again. He knows the rematch would be garbage.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Mrpedigree View Post
          why the fcuk do you wanna watch Hopkins throw 3 punches then hold on for dear life for another 12 rounds??
          Because they're not boxing fans, they're haters.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Precision View Post
            I have noticed and i respect his decision.

            I would still of liked to seen the rematch though.

            Hopkins may end up fighting Dawson if the money is right.
            You're the only Hopkins fan in this thread who isn't a hater. Green K coming your way.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Precision View Post
              Calzaghe knows Hopkins is dangerous as he proved in their first fight and Calzaghe doesn't want to risk his "0".
              Dawson is at least as much of a risk to his 0 and probably more of one. But if Calzaghe were to come out of retirement, his fans would greatly prefer it to be against Dawson, and so would most neutrals. And Calzaghe himself made it clear that had he continued, he would have wanted to fight Dawson next.

              The only people who would prefer him to fight Hopkins again are Hopkins' fans. If GBP want to lure him out of retirement they should be trying to set up a Dawson fight, but Hopkins being a GBP partner is blinding them to their responsibility to the sport of boxing to put on the best fights.

              And Calzaghe made it clear that his reasons for not rematching Hopkins were (a) that it would be another ugly, unwatchable fight in which he believes he would again win by close decision, which would satisfy no one, and (b) Hopkins' sour attitude after the fight and cheating during it, which left a nasty taste in the mouth and would do so again if a rematch happened. Those are very convincing reasons to me; I would feel exactly the same way in his position, as would most human beings, I believe; and I think only a hater could not respect those reasons. Hopkins is a great fighter, maybe even an all time great fighter, but his attitude during and after that particular fight stank, and only a blindly loyal fan could say otherwise, IMO.
              Last edited by Dave Rado; 03-05-2009, 09:28 AM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                Dawson is at least as much of a risk to his 0 and probably more of one. But if Calzaghe were to come out of retirement, his fans would greatly prefer it to be against Dawson, and so would most neutrals. And Calzaghe himself made it clear that had he continued, he would have wanted to fight Dawson next.

                The only people who would prefer him to fight Hopkins again are Hopkins' fans. If GBP want to lure him out of retirement they should be trying to set up a Dawson fight, but Hopkins being a GBP partner is blinding them to their responsibility to the sport of boxing to put on the best fights.

                And Calzaghe made it clear that his reasons for not rematching Hopkins were (a) that it would be another ugly, unwatchable fight in which he believes he would again win by close decision, which would satisfy no one, and (b) Hopkins' sour attitude after the fight and cheating during it, which left a nasty taste in the mouth and would do so again if a rematch happened. Those are very convincing reasons to me; I would feel exactly the same way in his position, as would most human beings, I believe; and I think only a hater could not respect those reasons. Hopkins is a great fighter, maybe even an all time great fighter, but his attitude during and after that particular fight stank, and only a blindly loyal fan could say otherwise, IMO.
                Too true.Although i think second time round would be a fair bit easier for joe as he knows what to expect from hopkins,who isnt going to show him anything different from last time,plus if it was to happen,then hopkins would be even older.Fair play to him for being in the shape that he is in,but the sand runs out sometime.It was also one of the worst world title fights i have ever had the misfortune to watch.

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                • #78
                  the first fight was a garbage fight in which calzaghe clearly won imo...no need to waste time and money on a rematch...

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                    Boring ass fight, that wont happend but if iyt does, it will end up the same way. Calzaghe outworking B-Hop to a clear UD in a ugly fight.

                    I dunno why people want to see, this the only way fro Pops to do better is if he thows more, but if he throws more, he will get tire and Zaghe will KHTFO!!!!!!!!!!!
                    Get outta here with that BS. Calzaghe couldn't knock Roy Jones out.

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                    • #80
                      This aint Paul Williams knocking out Quintana in the 1st round.

                      Originally posted by mr.crust View Post
                      Pointless.Joe beats him even easier this time.If he wants to do it though,he should make B-hop apologise publicly for acting like a ***** during and after the last fight,then give him the payday he seems to crave so desperately.
                      Lies.

                      "I underestimated Hopkins a little bit which I nearly paid for."

                      - Joe Calzaghe

                      Doesn't sound like someone who thought that was easy. Winky Wright practically said the same thing after his encounter.

                      Calzaghe only wanted that fight because he was so in love with his work rate he gave himself an automatic victory in his mind when he sized up Hop as old and a measly outputter. Too bad he didn't account for guile and accuracy, which cost him the bout imo. Bernard pulled it off for me even with an unusual level of fatigue he was displaying being up 4-2 at the half.


                      Hopkins has clearly stated after Pavlik that any fights from there on he will fight more aggressively and not bank on a decision going his way. Did any of you notice despite all the constant movement and even combo punching Hop did against Kelly that he wasn't any where near as winded like he was at the halfway point of the Cal fight doing much much less? You guys who think a Joe/Hop rematch will see the same "super defense" Hop after he stated that he won't fight that way after just proving it shouldn't cry foul so loudly, and it looks like an excuse for not wanting a score settled. Given the night and day stamina performance, I'm going to believe for the time being that Hopkins thyroid issue was legit against Joe.

                      Boring or not, the fight was close enough to warrant a rematch. This ain't Paul Williams knocking out Quintana in the 1st round where you can waive off a return bout. The rematch will have to produce a bigger offensive display and I'm pretty certain it would be a big fight this time. Bernard knows no 3 judges will give him a really close fight at this point.

                      And Hopkins did not "cheat" in that fight. It's called being smart. He had to work around an unusual level of fatigue that may have been brought on by an overactive thyroid and did everything he could to mask it. What was he supposed to do? Stand there while exhausted and leave himself defenseless while he has a man with fresher legs in front of him? No fighter in the world would voluntarily make themselves a sitting duck.

                      "If Hopkins didn't fake those low blows, he would've been stopped!" says many a Calzaghe fan. No ****, that was the point. To buy time to get some wind and stay in the fight. If I'm possibly fighting handicapped I have to work through it, not give up and guarantee I lose.

                      I wonder about you people sometimes.

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