Stop Overrating JMM!!

[miron_lang]

I don't know about that anymore mate. I dig that you really dislike the guy and all but the fact is that his resume is now really god damned good.

Barrera, Manuel Medina, Robbie Peden, Agapito Sanchez, Derrick Gainer, Julio Gervacio, Terdsak Jandaeng, Joel Casamayor and Juan Diaz is nearly as good as it gets from anyone in the sport today.

It should also include two wins over Pacquiao.

yeah its a good resume. But Erik and MAB's are still better. maybe 2 more wins againts current, former or future champion.

[BennyST]

jmm's biggest win was against an old manuel medina. nothing against medina who is a very good fighter and multiple time champ......but he was a bit long in the tooth by the time he fought marquez.

He was champion before and after the fight with Marquez, so he wasn't that over it. Certainly still good enough to become champion again in a very strong division.

Honestly though mate, if you're going to talk about someone fighting old fighters, you can't pretend that the same doesn't apply to another guy who made his name off fighting old legends. It's just how the sport works.

Trying to make Marquez' best wins seem bad because Medina was 32 is no different than saying Pac's best wins are ****e because Morales was flat out shot and couldn't even beat a third tier fighter in Diaz, whom he would have destroyed a few years previous. There really is no difference. Well, there is actually. Medina went on to win the world championship again whereas Morales got beaten by a hack and retired.

Look at it this way: Marquez is now a three division unified FW, SFW and now LW unified champion. He has wins as good as Pacquiao, Barrera and Morales having beaten Diaz, Casamayor, Barrera, Medina, Gainer, Sanchez etc, and has been considered in the top three P4P of the sport for a number of years now. That's pretty damn good and is not overrated.

No, his overall resume is not as good as Barrera's, but it is very, very close and you could even say it equals up due to never having been KO'd and having unified two divisions.

Edit: Or, just to be really picky, if you're going to list Ayala and Tapia as huge wins for Barrera without saying they were well past their best fighting age and definitely past their best fighting weight, then you shouldn't be saying that it applies to Marquez. You know?

You pick apart Marquez' resume by saying that Medina was old even though it was his best win, then list Ayala and Tapia as major wins for Barrera even though they were by far his best as a super Flyweight and never got close to a title win after the Barerra fight. So, why don't we just not list those as great wins for Barrera and Morales because both guys were at the end of their careers, over the best weight and never even got a title shot, let alone a win, after the fights? Or we could just recognise that they're actually all very close and all have amazing records and have fought many great fighters because that is the simple truth of the matter.

[miron_lang]

He was champion before and after

Benny


You think Marquez's Resume is now equal to Erik and Marco?


Morales-------Barrera------Marquez

Pacquiao(27)----Hamed-------Barrera(33)
Barrera ---------Morales--------Cassamayor(37)
Jones ----------McKinney-------J.Diaz
Chavez --------A. Sanchez----Medina
Zaragoza ------Tapia ----------Gainer
Chi --------------Salud ---------Juarez
Hernandez----- Ayala ----------Peden
McCullough----- Juarez ---------Salido
Ayala -----------Peden ----------Polo


----------1----------2----------3

[Komander]

Benny


You think Marquez's Resume is now equal to Erik and Marco?


Morales-------Barrera------Marquez

Pacquiao(27)----Hamed-------Barrera(33)
Barrera ---------Morales--------Cassamayor(37)
Jones ----------McKinney-------J.Diaz
Chavez --------A. Sanchez----Medina
Zaragoza ------Tapia ----------Gainer
Chi --------------Salud ---------Juarez
Hernandez----- Ayala ----------Peden
McCullough----- Juarez ---------Salido
Ayala -----------Peden ----------Polo


----------1----------2----------3

Marquez has never been knocked out. All his losses (with the exception of his first fight which was a DQ) were controversial.

You have to factor this into the equation.

[5punchcombo]

your wrong.................

[brently1979]

All three of these guys are unreal fighters, all of these haven't ducked anyone like many others have.

I think it just comes down to personal taste, what style you prefer.

[MANGLER]

He's gettin overhyped now cuz of the PBF challenge that nobody shoulda taken seriously. But he is a damn great fighter.

[baCCaT]

rich and lefty,

go back to your happy place..

[fcastro1]

marquez got knocked down 4 times i dont know why these people are complaining. imagine the p4p champ being knocked down by pac 4 times. people that dont sound right does it. you guys are funny cant deal with reality. marquez had his chance and blew it and if he fights this better pac again he wil get ****d.

[pistol whip]

marquez ain't on barrera's level.

fact.

LOL!! Thats why Barrera is cannon foder for Amir Kahn and JMM is one of the top fighters in boxing at age 35.