Marquez is my p4p number 1

[P4P GOAT]

I think i could of beaten DLH with one hand tied behind my back on that particular night .

[fcastro1]

Your using the word accomplishments, because going on hard facts(paper) Pacquiao has better wins, but that is before you go into whats behind the numbers, then its a different story.

Im not delusional. you are delusional, if you think you cant make a case for JMM based on what, he has done.

I have no problem with you thinking pac is the better fighter, but please dont act like im delusional or crazy for saying i believe Marquez pips him in the P4P stakes.

i respect your opinion, but to say marquez goes ahead of pac because of casa and diaz is flawed.

[BlackHat]

I think i could of beaten DLH with one hand tied behind my back on that particular night .

Prime example of an internet warrior.

[andrewcuff]

your reasoning is flawed...

1) casamayor was pretty much shot when JMM got him

2) nat campbell already beat diaz

3) pac only had 1 fight at lightweight.

marquez's 2 wins at lightweight (against a shot fighter (casamayor) and a defeated fight (diaz who lost to nate campbell) doesnt trump a limited fighter (diaz) and a former middleweight (DLH).

not to mention that Pac has 2 victories over Marquez (the draw was really a victory if not for the scoring error, and the rematch was a close decision).

while picking JMM as p4p#1 isn't ridiculous, it also has no basis in reality.

People will always say that Pacman only beat Morales when he was shot and lost to him when he was still a good fighter.

As I've said before you can nitpick anyones resume.

[P4P GOAT]

Prime example of an internet warrior.

...........It was a joke. I was just trying to get my point across by exaggerating the point.

[BoriKua305]

People will always say that Pacman only beat Morales when he was shot and lost to him when he was still a good fighter.

As I've said before you can nitpick anyones resume.

yea but still he beat marquez twice. theres no way marquez is ahead of pacman wat has he done to deserve the number 1 spot? lose to pac man twice get thrown on the floor 4 times?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ive had JMM over Manny for years now. He beat him at least once (first fight, i could see a draw). I dont see how anyone can watch both their fights and conclude that Pacquiao is the better fighter. Bigger puncher maybe but better fighter.....no chance.

[Bogler]

Marquez is my p4p number 1.

I believe Marquez beat Pacquiao 1st time. Manny probably did enough to win the 2nd fight, but i think Marquez won the 1st.

I rate his wins over Casamayor,Juan Diaz over David Diaz and weight drained DLH. Collazo,Quintana, infact any top 10 147lbs would of beaten DLH that night. David Diaz got a beat down at the hands of Kendall Holt at 140lbs.

Both have victorys over Barrera.

Juan Manuel Marquez beat Norwood imo.

your p4p status are not based on real facts. we could do this all day w/ other fighters and push them up the standings by saying 'i think fighter A really beat fighter B. see what you're saying?

why not give credit to jmm by saying he gave pac his hardest fight even in his loss and draw? or norwood? saying the opposite makes your conclusion flawed.

[andrewcuff]

yea but still he beat marquez twice. theres no way marquez is ahead of pacman wat has he done to deserve the number 1 spot? lose to pac man twice get thrown on the floor 4 times?

I had Pacman winning both of those fights, but if the KDs hadn't occured then Marquez would have won both fights.

Neither fight was conclusive. Pac scored KDs but overall JMM won more rounds, so using the results of those two fights as an example of Pacs supremacy is a pretty poor argument IMO.

And this is coming from a huge Pac fan.

[BoriKua305]

Ive had JMM over Manny for years now. He beat him at least once (first fight, i could see a draw). I dont see how anyone can watch both their fights and conclude that Pacquiao is the better fighter. Bigger puncher maybe but better fighter.....no chance.

well the first fight was actually a pac win the one judge admitted after the fight that he scored the first round 10-7 when it was possed to be scored 10-6 for the 3 knockdowns that difference woulda gave pac the win