Marquez is a lucky fighter

[poeticlsykuac]

[B]

marquez fans always seem to give him the sympathy vote. its always woul'v could'v with you.
simple pac is top 50 atg marquez nowhere to be seen. pac has a better resume than marquez and thats the truth.

flyweight to welterweigh(10 division gap) beat barrera~2 morales~2 marquez~1 delahoya~1 a 5 weight champ dominating most of his opponents plus the most exciting fighter of this era.

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Marquez is nowhere close to that

Your talking about me being biased? I have probably been a fan of Pac longer then you buddy. Since he beat Ledwaba I knew he was special. In fact I have been a fan of Pac longer then Marquez, but you are riding his jock. This is ridiculous. Pacman has benefited from fighting old fighters, that is plain and simple. If Morales hadn't been shot when he fought Pac he punks him that is being serious. You seem to have no answer for that you want to know why. Because it is the truth, if a past prime Morales dominates Pac then a prime Morales does it easily and perhaps by KO.

No one is saying that Pac isn't a ATG, but for you to dismiss the fact that Pac lost more rounds in the first fight against JMM. You need to admit he out right got dominated by JMM for the remainder of the fight your a schmuck. Think about it dude gets 3 KDs and sniffs a draw. In other words if one KD didn't happen he lost plain and simple, what does that say?

You list who he wins but you don't list that those guys were all far out of their hey day. Sorry dude but JMM is not a lucky fighter, in fact it is more likely that Pac is lucky. He keeps fighting old fighters and was given a gift decision. I still don't know if Pac beats Juan Diaz, IMO Diaz could do a lot that would make it a fun fight. I have been wanting for about 3 years.

Pac is an awesome fighter, I am a bigger fan of him, but you can't dismiss what JMM has done. You have to step outside of Pacs underwear and look at what JMM has done legitmately. Dude is 50-4 with 2 bs losses, not bad. Has Pacman accomplished more then JMM? Absolutely, but JMM is still the better fighter.

[JL FightFan]

the only thing that really irritates me about JMM is that he is such a ****ing cry baby.

[larryx]

the only thing that really irritates me about JMM is that he is such a ****ing cry baby.

e had 2 contraversal fights with pacman..thats not being a cry baby..the man just wants to fight..now cintron is a cry baby

[micsael]

this is ridiculous pacman is a great fighter yes we all know that but saying marquez is a lucky fighter is completely dumb your just a dumb fanboy who doesn't know crap about boxing if you think that.

[pistol whip]

pac gets it all the time. barrera morales shot when they were in their 20's when they faced pac. marquez beats a shadow of the former barrera in a tough fight and a 37 year old casamayor who looked dodgy in his last two fights. now marquez is on par or better than pac. give me a break. pac just moved three weights to demolish a guy and gets no credit. this is blatant double standards.

But isn't that how people try to discredit all the top PFP fighters? They pick apart their resume to the point that it makes it seem like they never challanged themselves ever.

It isn't just JMM and Pac but it's also Floyd and Joe C who always get criticized for fighting weak compatition.

The simple fact that people say that Casamayor is over the hill and Juan Diaz was no good just justifies JMM place as a top 3 PFP fighter.

[strugler]

But isn't that how people try to discredit all the top PFP fighters? They pick apart their resume to the point that it makes it seem like they never challanged themselves ever.

It isn't just JMM and Pac but it's also Floyd and Joe C who always get criticized for fighting weak compatition.

The simple fact that people say that Casamayor is over the hill and Juan Diaz was no good just justifies JMM place as a top 3 PFP fighter.

You know you made it big when theres a bunch of haters talking **** about you all the time.

[pistol whip]

You know you made it big when theres a bunch of haters talking **** about you all the time.

Yup!!! You haven't made it till some douche bag on the internet says that your knock out win over the #1 ranked contender who is also 10 years your junior wasn't that impressive.


Only a top 10 PFP fighter can live up to those kind of expectations.

[HendrixLove]

casamayor lost to santa cruz and diaz lost to campbell.

the legit champ at 135 was campbell. jmm is the king of 135 by default because campbell cant make 135 anymore.

Casa and Robbie Peden both whooped Nate's ass so what does that prove???? Nate ain't ****, Casa beat Corrales for fu#ks sake.

[strugler]

Yup!!! You haven't made it till some douche bag on the internet says that your knock out win over the #1 ranked contender who is also 10 years your junior wasn't that impressive.


Only a top 10 PFP fighter can live up to those kind of expectations.

yes. Check youtube videos and see kids discredit each others fighter.Sometimes boxing forums are like youtube w/o videos.

[pistol whip]

the only thing that really irritates me about JMM is that he is such a ****ing cry baby.

I think a more accurate discription is bitter!!

Crybabies don't go out of their way like he has to get another shot at the person that wronged him.