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  • dde91
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    #21
    Originally posted by Dice
    I dont kno if Erik was shot but how the hell was Pac green when it was past his 40th fight??
    He wasn't green, but he wasn't in his Prime yet. Right now, he is in his prime.

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    • Dice
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      #22
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      I can agree with that. The second Morales fight, Erik was in pretty good fighting shape, not his best, but not nearly as bad as the rubbermatch either.
      Pac had 42/43 fights and had held world titles in two other weight classes when he fought Erik the first time so how was he green?

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      • dporcer0
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        #23
        1. Julio Cesar Chavez
        2. Salvador Sanchez
        3. Vicente Saldivar
        4. Ruben Olivares
        5. Miguel Canto
        6. Erik Morales
        7. Juan Manuel Marquez
        8. Marco Antonio Barrera
        9. Baby Arizmendi
        10. Carlos Zarate

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        • Ch@mpBox@PR
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          #24
          Originally posted by dporcer0
          1. Julio Cesar Chavez
          2. Salvador Sanchez
          3. Vicente Saldivar
          4. Ruben Olivares
          5. Miguel Canto
          6. Erik Morales
          7. Juan Manuel Marquez
          8. Marco Antonio Barrera
          9. Baby Arizmendi
          10. Carlos Zarate
          No FInito? WTF??????

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          • them_apples
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            #25
            Originally posted by dde91
            He wasn't green, but he wasn't in his Prime yet. Right now, he is in his prime.
            He had fought a lot but he was very young and reckless in comparison to what he is now. If it wasn't for his insane KO power at feather, Marquez would have completely destroyed him on the cards. At 130 it was very competitive, now he looks even better. That's why I said green.

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            • Dice
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              #26
              Originally posted by dde91
              He wasn't green, but he wasn't in his Prime yet. Right now, he is in his prime.
              Not tryin to big up one over the other but I think he was hittin his prime, he held two world championships in other weight classes and knocked out MAB and had the draw on Marquez which he technically should have won cuz of the judges scoring error. Erik was on in that fight tho

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              • dde91
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                #27
                Originally posted by The_Bringer
                29 means nothing when you're talking about a fighter as shopworn as Morales was. For Christ sake, Zahir Rahim whipped his ass before Pac did. You think a prime Erik would've ever let that disgrace outbox him like that?
                If im mistakin, Didn't Erik move up to lightweight, then lose? it's not like he was in featherweight and lost to rahim. He fought the bigger man and lost. 135 isn't a good weight for him.

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                • dporcer0
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                  No FInito? WTF??????
                  No, his resume isn't good enough. The only truly elite fighter he faced was Rosendo Alvarez and he didn't exactly run over him either. And Alvarez sure isn't on the level of a Jung Koo Chang or a Yoko Gushiken (both of whom have superior resumes to Lopez and could quite honestly have beaten him. Especially Chang).

                  Saldivar, who is criminally underrated, deserves to be higher. No question.

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                  • dde91
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dice
                    Not tryin to big up one over the other but I think he was hittin his prime, he held two world championships in other weight classes and knocked out MAB and had the draw on Marquez which he technically should have won cuz of the judges scoring error. Erik was on in that fight tho
                    agreed.......

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                    • Dice
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by dporcer0
                      No, his resume isn't good enough. The only truly elite fighter he faced was Rosendo Alvarez and he didn't exactly run over him either. And Alvarez sure isn't on the level of a Jung Koo Chang or a Yoko Gushiken (both of whom have superior resumes to Lopez and could quite honestly have beaten him. Especially Chang).

                      Saldivar, who is criminally underrated, deserves to be higher. No question.
                      Although I think your underrating Lopez, MUCH respect for knowing your facts, a weight class that low doesnt really get too much attention

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