Marquez Stops Diaz In A Thriller; Wants Mayweather Jr.

[Dave Rado]

Do u want be a US citizen? LOL.. Call all the names u want but u know its true. Mexicans have limited ability. Thats why PAC is considered pound for pound because he feast on mexican fighters with his speed and foot work..LOL.. Look at Margs against Mosley and Williams. Footwork and handspeed.. A good african american beats a so called great mexican 9 times out of 10..

This is out and out racism, pure and simple. This is a boxing website, not a neo-**** website. Keep to boxing and keep race out of it.

[handler00]

dude what are you trying to prove, cause i could care less if earlier he wanted to fight those guys... and lets not talk about them, why is he avoiding them right know when he can make more money?? you clearly dont want to see mayweather against this guys seems you want to keep his "0" more than him , and thats okay but you can not tell hes the best P4P of this era, he never did really nothing to secure his legacy on welterweight, just fought a washed up oscar in a fight that could of been a draw , cause hes never faced no miguel cotto or shane mosley, berto, clottey... the list goes on.
so the truth is he should stayed in lower weight classes or come down right now that every one wants to fight him, and every body would understand if he admited that he thinks those guys are to big for him. dont get me wrong i think he has a chace to beat them and i think he has the potential of being one of the best (just physicall-athletic cause he is mentally weak).

that being said i think floyd mayweather is not better than for eg. mosley, who started at one weight above mayweather, almost the same size as him, but capable and positive of fighting anyone from welterweight or jr middleweight, and mayweather just maybe capable... and has never faced the type of fighters mosley has.
and for goodsake he was 31 and in his prime when he quit,, why stay retire now that he is wining the most money, and avoiding the top fighters in the division he has claimed to be the best... thats not being a leyend ,not a P4P not even a real fighter.

by the way great fight by marquez, he is truly a great fighter with courage, and has all my respect, he is the best thing in boxing for mexico right now, and is sad most of the people in the country have no idea what he has acomplished in his last two fights, they have to get over chavez retired so they stop putting their hopes in the juniors, because by the way boxing is right now we dont need more superstars that are not willing to fight the best.

What do u expect from a 3rd world country?? They are stuck in the past...LOL

[handler00]

This is out and out racism, pure and simple. This is a boxing website, not a neo-**** website. Keep to boxing and keep race out of it.

Mind ur business..If u checked his post u would see where the racism played a part..Im just speaking the facts...

[jk1325]

JMM is the best out there right now. Hopkins even said so after the fight. IMO he beat pacman twice in 2 very close fights. PBF does not have the balls to fight someone like JMM. If they ever fought I got my money on JMM.

[Elemental Fist]

Marquez is on fire!

That was a great fight.

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Irrelevant

So in June 2005 Hatton called Floyd out very publicly and got no response.

Then in November 2005 Hatton called Floyd out very publicly again and invited him to be at ringside for Hatton's fight against Maussa in order to build interest in a fight between them early in the New Year, and again got no response apart from his invitation to attend the Maussa fight being declined. At this stage Floyd had already moved up to Welterweight to fight for Sharmba Mitchell, although he still held a Jnr. Welterweight belt.

Then in March 2006, four months after the second call-out and nine months after the first one, when Floyd gave up the Jnr. Welterweight title, Floyd's advisor Ellerbe claimed that Hatton isn't looking his way until at least 2007, but gave no evidence to back up his statement.

And you ignore the first two articles completely, but take the third one completely at face value?

If I was trying to disregard anything I would not have put the link there for people to check out for themselves. Ricky Hatton got creamed anyway by PBF. I am sure Hatton said also around that time after the Gatti fight that he wanted to wait to fight Floyd & will find it. Bottom line PBF clearly had nothing to be worried about with Hatton & if he indeed didn't answer him it was only because he wanted that stock to rise before he KO'd his ass. Hatton officially called PBF out at the end of the Castillo fight & got dealt with.

[GRUSTLER]

Facts are facts pbf ducked nobody (my point)

dude what are you trying to prove, cause i could care less if earlier he wanted to fight those guys... and lets not talk about them, why is he avoiding them right know when he can make more money?? you clearly dont want to see mayweather against this guys seems you want to keep his "0" more than him , and thats okay but you can not tell hes the best P4P of this era, he never did really nothing to secure his legacy on welterweight, just fought a washed up oscar in a fight that could of been a draw , cause hes never faced no miguel cotto or shane mosley, berto, clottey... the list goes on.
so the truth is he should stayed in lower weight classes or come down right now that every one wants to fight him, and every body would understand if he admited that he thinks those guys are to big for him. dont get me wrong i think he has a chace to beat them and i think he has the potential of being one of the best (just physicall-athletic cause he is mentally weak).

that being said i think floyd mayweather is not better than for eg. mosley, who started at one weight above mayweather, almost the same size as him, but capable and positive of fighting anyone from welterweight or jr middleweight, and mayweather just maybe capable... and has never faced the type of fighters mosley has.
and for goodsake he was 31 and in his prime when he quit,, why stay retire now that he is wining the most money, and avoiding the top fighters in the division he has claimed to be the best... thats not being a leyend ,not a P4P not even a real fighter.

by the way great fight by marquez, he is truly a great fighter with courage, and has all my respect, he is the best thing in boxing for mexico right now, and is sad most of the people in the country have no idea what he has acomplished in his last two fights, they have to get over chavez retired so they stop putting their hopes in the juniors, because by the way boxing is right now we dont need more superstars that are not willing to fight the best.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.


[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=242038

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I said that

The article doesn't say Mosley wished he was Mayweather. It just says he was the closest in style from a sparring partner point of view that Gomez was able to come up with. It says Mayweather is the best technician in the game, but only a hater could deny that. Mosley is not as good as technician but he has other qualities, and more power. The article does not say that Mosley doesn't think he would have a chance of beating Mayweather if they fought.

The article is self explanatory. Mosley tried to duplicate PBF's style to help Oscar & Oscar still lost. There is NO ONE out there on Floyd Mayweather Jr's level & this article has stated that as facts. So when people try to bash PBF & say he is scared to fight fighters/Boxers that are clearly not on his level it is insulting not only as a PBF fan but as a boxing fan because there has NEVER been any evidence that he was scared to fight any of these guys. So instead of arguing I much rather state actual facts to keep the arguing to a minimum. Bottom line PBF wanted to fight all these guys at one point but they either weren't ready, wasn't worth it or the business wasn't right & I think it has been proven through documented FACTS I presented, right or wrong?

[GRUSTLER]

Reason for Posting.....

It's true that Boldomir was briefly rated highly, after beating Judah and Gatti, but he has since been shown up as a limited fighter, not only by Mayweather, and is no longer rated in the top 10 at any weight by The Ring or by boxrec.

IMO, there is no doubt that Mosley, Cotto, Clottey and Williams are currently all a lot better fighters than Boldomir and Judah were back then.

Not saying that any of them would beat Mayweather if they fought, but they'd be much more of a challenge in most boxing experts' minds than Boldomir and Judah were.

Listen man, the reason why I posted this was because everyone on here tried to down play Floyd Mayweather Jr for fighting Carlos Baldomir before & after he fought him but Carlos Baldomir was considered the man at 147 & other fighters wasn't sure at 147 if Floyd could beat him. So when people try to say PBF fought him because it was an easy fight are clearly HATING with BLIND FACTS. I'm bringing STR8T up DOCUMENTED FACTS. PBF is the best hands down. Miguel Cotto wasn't ready for him at 140 & Shane Mosley wasn't ready for him after Fernando Vargas. Margarito got caught in the cross fires of contractual issues between PBF & Arum. Not saying that they were scared but clearly times were different but Floyd was always ready. Now he's elsewhere in his career & has moved up & on PERIOD.

[machoboy]

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.


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it shows you know some facts bro
but the thing is that no body cares about these type of things and anyone who says he does may not have a life of his own.
they are just for people to know why a fight wasnt made, not to decide who is the better of the fighter.
and when a fighter cares about hes legacy they should really not care that much about money, and the people will love them, the people will respect them, and the money will come.
you say your point was that floyd ducked no body, okay... didnt read any of your posts, but lets say you proved that point. "he ducked no body".
but he is clearly doing it right now... okay "hes retired", because he doesnt want to fight anymore and thats okay with me, in fact is a wise decision wich i respect.

but you should to your self your opinion about mayweatherfact being the best pound for pound of our era, and placing it like it is some type of conclusion from any of your boring allegations that he ducked no body.
its just not related.

because there has never been an all-time great, that became legend, from any rumor, interview, coment, etc., the only way is fighting against the best, and mayweather for what ever reason hasnt,

maybe mayweather had the potential but he came to short, he could maybe beat mosley (who knows, style makes fights) probably cotto, margarito,

but he did very little in terms of fighting the best oposition, to even being considered as the best pound for pound.