Juan Manuel Marquez Knocks Out Juan Diaz in a War

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  • Sonny Palermo
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    #161
    Perro, BMWM,
    I'M TRYING TO TALK BOXING HERE BUT YOU GUYS ARE DISTRACTING ME WITH THOSE ICONS!!!
    (not that I'm complaining though).




    HBO always pushes the guy who they have the contract extension or future $ interest with. They have a game plan going in, to do so in concert with each other. It's not just the commentators - look back at the in-between round replays - almost EVERY one was a clip of Diaz landing. Until the final round that is, when the showed him staring up at the ceiling. But it was obvious they wish it was JMM instead. The commentators aren't so much to blame as Ross Greenburg (although they could be men and stamd up and say "no" to the pre-planned agenda BS) they're just doing what they are paid to do. The agenda is set by RG.

    I had $ on JMM last night and was very happy to hear Manny S. say it the opening of the fight that Diaz is too young and strong for JMM. Right then I knew what the agenda was going to be for HBO, and also knew I had $ in the bank.

    I have no problem with unbiased commentators.
    I have no problem with biased commentators (like the W Sox, to use a baseball analogy, if any of you are familiar with their broadcast team.)
    What I do have a problem with is biased commentators posing as unbiased, like the HBO crew always is. It stinks of "phony." And is an insult to viewers.

    CB - Surgeon? Good analogy. I was thinking Accountant. Just kidding, I know it hasn't got the pizzazz of Assassin and other similar names, but he fights like his chosen out of ring career - he studies, he analyzes, then adds it all up to make the correct moves going forward. Perfect example last night, same as Pac fight #1; start at an even pace, see what's in front of you in the early rounds, process the information then use it intelligently as you proceed. He gets a lot of credit for being an excellent counterpuncher, but he's a ring-smart hombre, too.
    Last edited by Sonny Palermo; 03-01-2009, 10:59 AM.

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    • Rompeboca
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      #162
      Juan Diaz has nothing to be ashame after this loss
      JMM is one of the top P4P boxers in my book!

      The fight was so good that the commentators for th most part were speechless, anybody else notice it that?

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      • Ramamaiden
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        #163
        wow...
        i really wish that people start giving more credit for marquez.
        he really is an amazing fighter...to be able to fight at that pace when he is not used to it, and the adjustments he made and his amazing accuracy and counterpunching that in the end gave him the ko is amazing.
        that is boxing at its highest possible level.

        diaz , damn, i used to respect him but after tonight i respect him even more. i think that this performance was maybe his best...he fought amazingly well and i was sad that he lost, although i didnt want any of both to lose :P .

        what else i can say...just that this is why boxing is so ****ing awesome....damn what a fight.

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        • Ramamaiden
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          #164
          Originally posted by Rompeboca
          Juan Diaz has nothing to be ashame after this loss
          JMM is one of the top P4P boxers in my book!

          The fight was so good that the commentators for th most part were speechless, anybody else notice it that?
          yeah

          it happened two times

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          • KingTito
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            #165
            That was a ****ing great fight. I'm upset Diaz lost, but it's ok. That was a war.

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            • Sinicle
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              #166
              Now this was a fight! I always wonder why ppv events are expensive and the fights are ****ty, then when hbo has there wcb or bad series on their fights out shine ppv ones. Margarito mosely and now marquez diaz! This reminded me of hussien arce in 05! Great fight and the undercard juarez john was not bad either! Great card hbo!!!! Marquez without a doubt is the lb4lb king! Let's see how manny does agaisnt hatton!

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              • Xcel
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                #167
                Great fight but you could see the outcome coming. I knew it was a matter of time before someone KOd Diaz. He stands too square, never moves his head. He just absorbs punches. When he got in trouble he let his pride take over. Should have been holding to regain balance.

                Marquez was get overwhelmed early but you could see him landing good shots. On the first Diaz knockdown, all three of those punches in that combo landed. It was amazing.

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                • Shadow boxer 3
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                  #168
                  give diaz some credit folks. he's a young tough fighters who's willing to mix it up with the best

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                  • poontango
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                    PBF gave him a rematch IMMEDIATELY after the first fight and beat him again with NO controversy.
                    There's obviously no talking any sense to you because your a deluded, devoted, Gayfeather lover. But rematch or not means nothing. He clearly lost the first fight. The second fight couldve went either way. What I remember is Mayweather just running a lot. Which is pretty much what he does in most of his fights. ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz

                    But I do agree with you that JMM is a bad mother****er.

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                    • El Chicano
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Rompeboca
                      Juan Diaz has nothing to be ashame after this loss
                      JMM is one of the top P4P boxers in my book!

                      The fight was so good that the commentators for th most part were speechless, anybody else notice it that?
                      I didn't even notice the referee until one of them mentioned him.

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