Margarito vs. Baldomir is Welcomed By Tijuana Commission

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  • NoFriendOfMine
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    #111
    Originally posted by joe strong
    tough guy over the computer! LOL! You really are a failure! I feel sorry for you.I like talking boxing not about race.
    GO smoke your pot you uneducated lazy canuck.

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    • Libido Sanchez
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      #112
      Originally posted by myau1
      I find it disgraceful that anyone would let Margarito fight anywhere. This speaks volumes about people and once more proves that when enough money is involved people can be convinced to look the other way.

      Margarito is a cheater, that was proven and regardless of what the substance really turns out to be it's a fact that he cheated. Just because nobody got seriously injured doesn't mean he should get off easy. The fact remains that he went into the ring with the intent to cheat which could have caused serious injury to his opponents.

      Every fighter knows what's going on their hands when they're being wrapped and to believe otherwise is not only ignorant but ****** as well.

      The fact that Mexico will allow Margarito to fight tells me two things. First and foremost money talks and I'm sure those that allow the fight will get a nice cut. Secondly Mexico considers Margarito innocent because they share two things...the same nationality and profits from his fights down there.

      Arum is a virus and a horrible human being for backing Margarito.
      Hey man, good well-spoken post. Props.

      But I think the CSAC has not received enough blame. A trainer did the inspector's job for him. I don't know what the legal/technical rules are about getting the lab results back, but since they revoked (not suspended) Margarito's license before it was "officially" determined what exactly was on the wraps, it has lead to the argument from Mexican politicians that Margarito wasn't treated fairly.

      Now it might be a weak argument, but the feeling might be that if a superstar like LeBron, for example purposes only, was caught in a scandal, you can rest assured there would be a complete thorough investigation with more certified proof before the NBA made a decision. Maybe the CSAC should have suspended Margarito temporarily first and then waited to see what the results are (even if the chances are that it's gonna turn out bad), not just revoked it right away.

      I'm not defending Margarito. I'm just saying the CSAC needs to do a better job. And, yes, cash rules everything around us.

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      • rod_serrs
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        #113
        Originally posted by Perro
        I don't understand the hate for Margarito. This **** is ridiculous. He got punished by the CASC. As a result, he will not be allowed to fight in California, or any other location in the U.S. He was suspended for one year for being accused of trying to fight with illegal wraps. There was never any proof that there was an illegal substance on the wraps. Just illegal wraps. He's suspended from fighting in the U.S. Let it go already. If he's allowed to fight in Mexico, so be it. You all can't do **** about that but cry about it on here. He's fighting in Mexico, for a lot less money and it probably won't even be on T.V. If it is on one of Arum's PPVs then don't support it if you hate him so much. Don't watch it, that's about all you can do, but please, quit crying about this **** already.
        Th eproblem is that many people do want to see him fight. Whether it be a rematch with Cotto, Williams, or any other boxer most people want to see what becomes of him as a fighter. However, should he fight in Mexico he'll just become a memory to people as his fights in Mexico won't be televised in t the states or other countries. As I stated before he'll be doing his fans a disservice in the long run.

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        • joe strong
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          #114
          Originally posted by NoFriendOfMine
          GO smoke your pot you uneducated lazy canuck.
          first of all I got a post secondary education,I'm a journeyman ironworker,& I've travelled all over the world.I'm the furthest thing from lazy, but by your angry tone maybe you should try some Canadian pot eh! I'm not uneducated that's for sure but you on the other hand...need I say more LOL!

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          • rod_serrs
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            #115
            [QUOTE=Libido Sanchez;4825254]Hey man, good well-spoken post. Props.

            But I think the CSAC has not received enough blame. A trainer did the inspector's job for him. I don't know what the legal/technical rules are about getting the lab results back, but since they revoked (not suspended) Margarito's license before it was "officially" determined what exactly was on the wraps, it has lead to the argument from Mexican politicians that Margarito wasn't treated fairly.

            Now it might be a weak argument, but the feeling might be that if a superstar like LeBron, for example purposes only, was caught in a scandal, you can rest assured there would be a complete thorough investigation with more certified proof before the NBA made a decision. Maybe the CSAC should have suspended Margarito temporarily first and then waited to see what the results are (even if the chances are that it's gonna turn out bad), not just revoked it right away.

            I'm not defending Margarito. I'm just saying the CSAC needs to do a better job. And, yes, cash rules everything around us.[/QUOTE


            Margarito's trainer has already admitted to "accidently" placing whatever it was into Margarito's waps. Doesn't matter what it was, Capetillo admitted that it should not have been there and was intended to give his boxer an advantage. That's practically a confession on his part, and enough to accuse the both of them.

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            • El Chicano
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              #116
              Originally posted by rod_serrs
              Th eproblem is that many people do want to see him fight. Whether it be a rematch with Cotto, Williams, or any other boxer most people want to see what becomes of him as a fighter. However, should he fight in Mexico he'll just become a memory to people as his fights in Mexico won't be televised in t the states or other countries. As I stated before he'll be doing his fans a disservice in the long run.
              Staying busy is in HIS best interest as a fighter and economically. He's doing what he's got to do to stay busy and provide for his family and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for wishing him more hardship.

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              • rod_serrs
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                #117
                Originally posted by Perro
                Staying busy is in HIS best interest as a fighter and economically. He's doing what he's got to do to stay busy and provide for his family and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for wishing him more hardship.
                So making scraps against Baldomir is better than waiting and having million dollar paydays in the future? He's not gonna get license back if he goes through with it. California has taken a stand and other states have stated that they will honor California's decision. He'll end up fighting nobodies in Mexico and that'll make things harder for him. He still has to have money after his 2 consecutive largest paydays.

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                • Libido Sanchez
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by rod_serrs
                  Margarito's trainer has already admitted to "accidently" placing whatever it was into Margarito's waps. Doesn't matter what it was, Capetillo admitted that it should not have been there and was intended to give his boxer an advantage. That's practically a confession on his part, and enough to accuse the both of them.
                  Yeah, but "whatever it was" and having the license revoked and not suspended is the argument here. Everybody thinks it's plaster (or something just like it), and that's probably what it is, but it has not been 100% proven. Getting your license revoked is different than getting it suspended.

                  You're right, Capetillo admitted putting something in there and that's against the rules, no matter what it is. Automatic suspension, no question. But the CSAC made a decision not knowing for sure what the substance was and then went for the more severe punishment. Suspension means do your time and come back. Revoked means re-apply for your license and possibly be denied again and again. That's all I'm trying to point out.

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                  • rod_serrs
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Libido Sanchez
                    Yeah, but "whatever it was" and having the license revoked and not suspended is the argument here. Everybody thinks it's plaster (or something just like it), and that's probably what it is, but it has not been 100% proven. Getting your license revoked is different than getting it suspended.

                    You're right, Capetillo admitted putting something in there and that's against the rules, no matter what it is. Automatic suspension, no question. But the CSAC made a decision not knowing for sure what the substance was and then went for the more severe punishment. Suspension means do your time and come back. Revoked means re-apply for your license and possibly be denied again and again. That's all I'm trying to point out.
                    Doesn't matter what the substance was. Just trying to give your boxer an edge over the opponent by placing anything in the gloves could be grounds for a revoked license. They obviously felt strongly enough that the substance could have been very dangerous. We've recently seen what unloaded gloves can do to a boxer in Oskar Diaz. It's the commision's duty to make sure these guys are entering on an even playfield, and if an example has to be made then so be it. I was a Margarito fan but as a boxing fan I can't help feel that his punishment is just and will make boxers double think about cheating in the future. Margarito will get his chances again in 2010 fans, hopefully without Capetillo as he should never get his license back.

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                    • Libido Sanchez
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by rod_serrs
                      Doesn't matter what the substance was. Just trying to give your boxer an edge over the opponent by placing anything in the gloves could be grounds for a revoked license. They obviously felt strongly enough that the substance could have been very dangerous. We've recently seen what unloaded gloves can do to a boxer in Oskar Diaz. It's the commision's duty to make sure these guys are entering on an even playfield, and if an example has to be made then so be it. I was a Margarito fan but as a boxing fan I can't help feel that his punishment is just and will make boxers double think about cheating in the future. Margarito will get his chances again in 2010 fans, hopefully without Capetillo as he should never get his license back.
                      Cool. I know what you're saying.

                      But there's no guarantee that Margarito would be allowed to fight in 2010 when he re-applies.

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