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  • Hook
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    #201
    Originally posted by CottoWillReturn
    That's what you call a red hot favourite?
    In boxing it is a clear favourite yes.
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    It's time for you to apologise, and eat humble pie.
    Last edited by Hook; 02-25-2009, 10:42 PM.

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    • Vivid Intent
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      #202
      Originally posted by ALT=_=Assassin
      The fact that you compared a diminished Roy Jones to Toney says it all. James has always been struggling with weight, but I guess it only matters when Roy beats him.
      I compared the fact that they are both named opponents, Toney had nothing to offer because he was badly weightdrained and Jones had nothing to offer Calzaghe because he was shot. Is that easier for you to register?

      Originally posted by Hook
      In boxing that is a clear favourite yes.

      It's time for you to apologise, and eat humble pie.
      It's not a red hot favourite who should easily win, you're clueless man. Stop wasting my time with bull**** that you know nothing about.

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      • Hook
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        #203
        Originally posted by CottoWillReturn
        It's not a red hot favourite who should easily win, you're clueless man. Stop wasting my time with bull**** that you know nothing about.
        You're an idiot at best, I pitty you.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #204
          Originally posted by CottoWillReturn
          The Winky Wright fight wasn't as close as people say IMO, I scored it 116-112 Hopkins. Winky also fought an excellent fight and had the style and frame to fight at a higher weight, he'd been fighting at MW for a few fights prior to the Hopkins fight and only jumped up 10lbs to fight him at a 170 catch-weight. Most fans agree that Hopkins beat Taylor in the rematch, alot think he won the first fight aswell but I scored that norrowly for Taylor even though Hopkins came on strong. Trinidad was a good win but Tito wasn't suited for MW. He still had good power though and that's why he destroyed Joppy, but he wasn't suited to MW.

          Calzaghe beating Hopkins is a bigger scalp than anything Hopkins or Jones have done. And before some mindless buthugger brings up Ruiz, that was a great achievement, but not a great win. Ruiz was a Don King protected garbage fighter. Still impressive for a former MW to beat him though, definitely.

          Winky carried the weight so well he went right back down...not to super middle...to 160. He looked chubby and as bad as he ever looked in that fight. Stop making excuses, brother. It was a good name but unimpressive performance by two very lethargic fighters. And Winky didn't carry the weight well AT ALL.

          Second, Hopkins stature prior to facing Calzaghe was as low as it had been for years. Not a very impressive performance against Winky and Taylor pushed him as much as he'd ever been pushed before. Ever.

          Speaking of Taylor, funny how you easily forget he "earned" his shot against Taylor by beating a sparring partner and jabbing William Joppy to death for 12 rounds. You know, the same William Joppy Felix Trinidad knocked down three times in five rounds and destroyed? The same Tito who wasn't suited for middle? The same Joppy Hopkins couldn't stop?

          Calzaghe barely beating a 43yr old fighter who had lost two of his last three and mediocre in all three is not better than Roy Jones beating a prime, undefeated James Toney either.

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            #205
            Originally posted by Hook
            You're an idiot at best, I pitty you.
            I wouldn't say that. I've found his posts pretty interesting. Throwing insults around like "you're an idiot" doesn't really constitute a worthwhile comeback to the quality posts he's been writing. No offense. Obviously, the guy isn't an idiot, you just disagree with him.



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              #206
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i
              I wouldn't say that. I've found his posts pretty interesting. Throwing insults around like "you're an idiot" doesn't really constitute a worthwhile comeback to the quality posts he's been writing. No offense.
              Sam, anyone who thinks Calzaghe's split decision over Popkins is better than...say, Jones over Toney is an idiot.

              Ok fine, not an idiot. Just dumb.

              Ok, ok...not dumb. Just slow.

              Ok, not slow...

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                #207
                Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                I wouldn't say that. I've found his posts pretty interesting. Throwing insults around like "you're an idiot" doesn't really constitute a worthwhile comeback to the quality posts he's been writing. No offense. Obviously, the guy isn't an idiot, you just disagree with him.
                How about you pick out the post I was replying to in which he said the same thing to me and I simply responded?


                Go on do it, do it NOW!

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Hook
                  How about you pick out the post I was replying to in which he said the same thing to me and I simply responded?


                  Go on do it, do it NOW!
                  How about you don't tell me what to do, mini Hitler?



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                    #209
                    Originally posted by CottoWillReturn
                    I compared the fact that they are both named opponents, Toney had nothing to offer because he was badly weightdrained and Jones had nothing to offer Calzaghe because he was shot. Is that easier for you to register?
                    I understood the meaning just fine, but it was an awful comparison for several reasons. Jones has faded in many categories, speed, reflexes foot movement due to age. Toney on the other hand was undefeated at the time and in his physical prime. The weight drain excuse, is just that an excuse. Toney stepped into the ring to fight, if his condition was that bad surly he would of been smart enough to prolong the fight especially when you are fighting a gifted opponent like Jones.

                    The comparison is also foolish because Jones couldn't of known that Toney was going to be any less of a fighter in the ring that night. Calzaghe on the other hand knew the current state of Roy Jones. Joe even talked about it in his Auto Biography. Toney wasn't just a name, how can a P4P undefeated fighter be just a name?

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                      How about you don't tell me what to do, mini Hitler?
                      Says the guy who tried to tell me what to do!


                      Chicken! aAll buddies together is it, I see.

                      Shouldn't you be getting on with your embroidered Calzaghe quilt?

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