What Should Calzaghe's Resume Have Looked Like?!

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  • SonOfCuba
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    #131
    calzaghe gets the respect he deserves... wish is very little.

    you can do all the studying, arguing, analysis or whatever you guys are trying to do but the fact of the matter is everybody knows what his made of and he will never be regarded as one of the best aight, cause he wasn't, just a guy with a unbeaten record.

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    • Hook
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      #132
      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
      And Joe's argument to that is they only decided they wanted to fight him when they had nothing to lose. These are the more dangerous fights because Joe also had nothing to gain. See the logic? If you take Calzaghe's own word on it, these people only wanted to fight him when their career needed a boost. Before that, many of them did not want to fight.

      Don't believe everything he says, that is clearly nonsense. Fighters coming back off defeats are clearly not better, why do you think most take easy comeback fights?

      I see you ridicule the thought of Clinton Woods. Like it or not he has a record better than 90pc of those on Joes resume and would have been one of Joe's top five ever wins. That says all you need to know about Joes resume: defeated by your own argument.

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      • Hook
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        #133
        What amazes me is that you have the same people slagging Warren off for Cherry picking a career for his boxers, and yet defending Calzaghe like he has spent a life time taking the toughest fights. They don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that Calzaghe was an orchestrated Warren boxer his whole career baring one fight.

        Anyone sticking up for Calzaghes resume is backing Frank Warren.

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        • S A M U R A I
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          #134
          Originally posted by Hook
          Don't believe everything he says, that is clearly nonsense. Fighters coming back off defeats are clearly not better, why do you think most take easy comeback fights?

          I see you ridicule the thought of Clinton Woods. Like it or not he has a record better than 90pc of those on Joes resume and would have been one of Joe's top five ever wins. That says all you need to know about Joes resume: defeated by your own argument.
          I didn't say they were "better" fights, I said they are the most dangerous because the opponent has nothing to lose and the champ has nothing to gain. Please read more carefully next time.

          I don't ever ridicule Clinton Woods. On the contrary, I have been one of his supporters on this forum. You obviously haven't seen my posts on him. Check starjammer's profile messages, too.



          There isn't nothing wrong with suggesting Calzaghe and Clinton Woods are worlds apart in terms of technical skills. It is the truth. Not ridicule. I like Woods.



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          Last edited by S A M U R A I; 02-24-2009, 01:42 PM.

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          • Hook
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            #135
            Originally posted by S a m u r a i
            I didn't say they were "better" fights, I said they are the most dangerous because the opponent has nothing to lose and the champ has nothing to gain. Please read more carefully next time.

            I don't ever ridicule Clinton Woods. On the contrary, I have been one of his supporters on this forum. You obviously haven't seen my posts on him. Check starjammer's profile messages, too.



            There isn't nothing wrong with suggesting Calzaghe and Clinton Woods are worlds apart in terms of technical skills. It is the truth. Not ridicule. I like Woods.
            Fighting Woods at 175 early, picking up a belt there, would have improved Calzaghes resume. Woods has a record better than 90pc of Calzaghes opponents. That was my original point.

            I don't claim Woods to be particularly skillful a boxer, just better than most the guys Joe faced.
            Last edited by Hook; 02-24-2009, 01:50 PM.

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            • Abstraction
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              #136
              For me, his fans pay testament to how much of a fraud he really is.

              The way they insist Lacy and Kessler are the best things in Boxing Since SRL, Ali, Robinson etc. etc.

              kinda funny actually, but pathetic in the end

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              • hammerhiem
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                #137
                Originally posted by Hook
                Fighting Woods at 175 early, picking up a belt there, would have improved Calzaghes resume. Woods has a record better than 90pc of Calzaghes opponents. That was my original point.

                I don't claim Woods to be particularly skillful a boxer, just better than most the guys Joe faced.
                Woods didn't have a title until 2005.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by minion
                  The way they insist Lacy and Kessler are the best things in Boxing Since SRL, Ali, Robinson etc. etc.
                  No Calzaghe fan has ever said that. You need to stop exaggerating, because you are another Calzaghe hater who gives your little hater club a bad name.

                  For me, his haters pay testament to what brainless ****ing idiots actually are.



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                  • Hook
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by hammerhiem
                    Woods didn't have a title until 2005.
                    He was fighting for vacant titles, and in eliminators way before that though.

                    Anyway, Woods would still be a better W on Calzaghes resume than 90pc of the oponents Calzaghe faced.

                    Beating Woods would also have put Calzaghe in the mix at 175, with Jones kicking around.

                    Of the 8 or 9 names I originally picked out Woods was clearly the weakest, but as I said in my original post he is still a better quality opponent than most of the boxers Joe ever faced.

                    It's a debatable point but a Woods fight would have perhaps improved Joe's resume, and moved him away from the WBO reign of terror.
                    Last edited by Hook; 02-24-2009, 02:11 PM.

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                    • hammerhiem
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Hook
                      He was fighting for vacant titles, and in eliminators way before that though.

                      Anyway, Woods would still be a better W on Calzaghes resume than 90pc of the oponents Calzaghe faced.

                      Beating Woods would also have put Calzaghe in the mix at 175, with Jones kicking around.

                      Of the 8 or 9 names I originally picked out Woods was clearly the weakest, but as I said in my original post he is still a better quality opponent than most of the boxers Joe ever faced.
                      So you're having a go at Calzaghe for fighting SMW champions and ex champions instead of failed title contenders at LHW.

                      Geeze how generous of you.

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