Carlos Baldomir is underrated.

**savorduhflavor** · 02-23-2009, 12:16 AM

Respect. He fought hard, and was somewhat fortunate that Judah had one of his lapses. But respect nonetheless.

Quintana's a better fighter though.

**Ch@mpBox@PR** · 02-23-2009, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by warp1432

The man really is. This isn't a thread to make Floyd Mayweather look better, this is a thread to give Baldomir credit.

I'm not saying Baldomir is the best fighter ever, he's not really great either. However, people **** on him all the time. He is pretty much done and has been since losing to Vernon Forrest, but he is underrated.

People act like the Zab Judah fight was a fluke. He had a very determined gameplan when he kept going forward and kept landing his right hand that kept pummeling Zab.

Not only that, but the man was an UNDERDOG when facing Arturo Gatti! He not only proved the critics wrong, but he KOd Arturo Gatti "WITH A LEFT HOOK THAT ABSOLUETLY RUINS HIM"

He also had since 1999 not lost a fight. I'm not saying that Carlos Baldomir was an amazing fighter, but people act like he was a complete bum. Since 1999 he had beaten some decent prospects and even Joshua Clottey (I'm well aware that he was losing when Clottey got DQed thank you)

He's not amazing, but through hard work he became welterweight champion of the world. Respect that.

Zab laid an egg my friend, that was all. No disrespect for the guy,but he is not uderrated at all. He got that BS DQ with Clottey and the judah laying a egg, thats it. tough guy who atleast was a champion, but he is not anything special!!!!!!

**warp1432** · 02-23-2009, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR

Zab laid an egg my friend, that was all. No disrespect for the guy,but he is not uderrated at all. He got that BS DQ with Clottey and the judah laying a egg, thats it. tough guy who atleast was a champion, but he is not anything special!!!!!!

It was Baldomir's gameplan that caused him to win the fight. Not because Zab was distracted. If Zab was more active, he might have won, but he kept getting hit with the right hand. Hence why Zab didn't throw.

The win over Zab Judah is a legit win.

Respect. He fought hard, and was somewhat fortunate that Judah had one of his lapses. But respect nonetheless.

Quintana's a better fighter though.

I think Quintana vs the 2006 version would be a close fight. I could see Quintana winning it, but he'd be game.

**Steak** · 02-23-2009, 12:34 AM

hes ok, and he won a world championship, not everyone can say that. and I dont think the Judah win was because Judah screwed up himself, I think he won it with his own determination.

but lets face it...if you put him up against a top ten guy in the current Welterweight division(or almost any Welterweight division really), chances are hes going to lose a lot of the time.

people forget this, but he had a decently close fight against Miguel Rodriguez...the judges all had it around 8 rounds to 4. this is the same guy that Berto dominated and knocked out with that right to the body right uppercut combo.

**mathed** · 02-23-2009, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by warp1432

It was Baldomir's gameplan that caused him to win the fight. Not because Zab was distracted. If Zab was more active, he might have won, but he kept getting hit with the right hand. Hence why Zab didn't th

The win over Zab Judah is a legit win.

I think Quintana vs the 2006 version would be a close fight. I could see Quintana winning it, but he'd be game.

Zab got destroyed for sure

**Bushbaby** · 02-23-2009, 12:39 AM

He is not underratted at all,his skills are limited,but he did beat Jab,in probably the biggest upset this decade,major props for that,but u can't call him elite at 147,no way no how,look at the talent at 147,this decade!!It has kept boxing alive because of its dept,almost single handidly!!

**warp1432** · 02-23-2009, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by blackirish137

hes ok, and he won a world championship, not everyone can say that. and I dont think the Judah win was because Judah screwed up himself, I think he won it with his own determination.

but lets face it...if you put him up against a top ten guy in the current Welterweight division(or almost any Welterweight division really), chances are hes going to lose a lot of the time.

people forget this, but he had a decently close fight against Miguel Rodriguez...the judges all had it around 8 rounds to 4. this is the same guy that Berto dominated and knocked out with that right to the body right uppercut combo.

It's because of his non existent defense that let him win rounds. At the time though, Miki Rodruiguez was actually regarded as a decent prospect.

You are right that he would lose a lot of the the time, but I think he would have gave the lower half a run for their money. Hell he was able to win 3-4 rounds off of Clottey.

**Steak** · 02-23-2009, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by warp1432

It's because of his non existent defense that let him win rounds. At the time though, Miki Rodruiguez was actually regarded as a decent prospect.

You are right that he would lose a lot of the the time, but I think he would have gave the lower half a run for their money. Hell he was able to win 3-4 rounds off of Clottey.

oh, I dont think he would get dominated in all those fights. the guy had a rock hard chin and lots of willpower.

but I also dont see him winning against Quintana. Quintana would probebly have beaten him 117-111ish, based off the Quintana that schooled Joel Julio.

**Vasyl�s dad** · 02-23-2009, 01:01 AM

lol underrated.

The guy is the Cinderella of this era.

Won one fight in which he was expected to be a pushover, and somehow hes underrated?

Carlos Baldomir is underrated.