If Joe Calzaghe was American and black, would he be better respected?

[Electrode]

Why didn't he fight Echols? Is there a link?

A link for what?

Everybody and their mother knows Echols/Brewer was an elimination bout for Joe's Title.

The record clearly shows Joe didn't fight Echols.

[Electrode]

A black fighter cannot go through Calzaghe's resume undefeated.

Crawl back up Joe's colon and finish your dinner..lol

I don't see anybody on Joe's resume giving Black fighters any trouble.

I don't see Kessler beating up on any Brothers..hell..that SOFT mofo ducked Edison Miranda..hahaha

I don't see Peter Manredo wreaking havoc in the Black camp either.

Jeff Lacy just got beat-down by Taylor.

I don't see anybody on Joe's resume doing ****.

Dawson beat Adamek now Tomaz is Cruiserweight Champion.

[Porter's Dad]

Haven't you noticed hate thread after hate thread about Joe in this forum, every day since he defeated Jones?

It's hard to miss - some days three, some days it's five, some days more. EVERY DAY!

Didn't it cross your mind that might be why?

How do you explain the hate Mayweather gets, if it's a racial/nationality thing?

God, why am I even botherting trying to argue with mentally unstable freaks on the internet?

[Butterball]

A link for what?

Everybody and their mother knows Echols/Brewer was an elimination bout for Joe's Title.

The record clearly shows Joe didn't fight Echols.

A link to why it didn't happen... info, interviews, etc.

[Pullcounter]

A black fighter cannot go through Calzaghe's resume undefeated.

why? nothing but non-elite boxers and old men.

[fatmash]

i think joe wud be less popula................ he would just be another great black fighter ............... but becuase hes white hes something a little special !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

Crawl back up Joe's colon and finish your dinner..lol

I don't see anybody on Joe's resume giving Black fighters any trouble.

I don't see Kessler beating up on any Brothers..hell..that SOFT mofo ducked Edison Miranda..hahaha

I don't see Peter Manredo wreaking havoc in the Black camp either.

Jeff Lacy just got beat-down by Taylor.

I don't see anybody on Joe's resume doing ****.

Dawson beat Adamek now Tomaz is Cruiserweight Champion.

Kessler already beat up many "brothas." He only lost to Calzaghe.
Miranda? LOL!
Jeff Lacy (brotha) was destroyed and ruined by Calzaghe, physically, emotionally, and mentally. The Jeff Lacy that fought Calzaghe can mop the floor with Taylor.
Chad who? The kid that struggled to beat a senior citizen? Is that who you talking about?!

[Vasyl’s dad]

A link for what?

Everybody and their mother knows Echols/Brewer was an elimination bout for Joe's Title.

The record clearly shows Joe didn't fight Echols.

How about this?


Floyd still fought Judah,


after Zab lost his championship,

that is no different than any elimination bout, pre-signed or not.


You're using a terrible angle here because many boxers, of all ethnicities have fought fighters coming off of losses.

[Johnny Rebel]

I have NO DOUBTS that Calzaghe would be more respected if he were an African-American. No matter how talented a white fighter is or how many dominate their divisions there still remains a stereotype in America that blacks are superior athletes. That's why you'll see "white hope" said and movies like "The Great White Hype and White Men Can't Jump" without any criticism about those being racist. If a movie was called "Black Men Can't Skate" it would never get released and it would be deemed racist by all. There's a clear racial double standard in America, the UK, as well as several other EU countries now, unfortunately...

[Guest]

I have NO DOUBTS that Calzaghe would be more respected if he were an African-American. No matter how talented a white fighter is or how many dominate their divisions there still remains a stereotype in America that blacks are superior athletes. That's why you'll see "white hope" said and movies like "The Great White Hype and White Men Can't Jump" without any criticism about those being racist. If a movie was called "Black Men Can't Skate" it would never get released and it would be deemed racist by all. There's a clear racial double standard in America and now also the UK as well as several other EU countries now, unfortunately...

Not true at all. I've been to different European countries and black athletes are considered weak and unreliable in many areas.
Take soccer for example (most popular sport), in Europe (not sure about UK) they always joke about them because they're the ones that fold in critical matches.